Lots of information already out there from other members:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/Review/c-kites/

Both of the kites you've mentioned some will argue (and I tend to agree) aren't 'true' c-kites, since one has a bridle; and the other has swept wing-tips + a supporting LE.

thanks!! this is very helpful

i demoed the C4 and liked it a lot but not able to demo a Vegas which is why i was asking

ballztoloop said...

I used to own both C4 and Vegas at the same time both 2011 both same size 9. I would almost 90% at a time naturally reach for the Vegas when going to the beach.

My chart:
Vegas: Boosting 10 , Loop 8, Unhooked 9, Stability 10, hangtime 9, Bar Pressure Med light.

C4 : Boosting 6, Loop 8, Unhooked 7, Stability 8, hangtime 6, Bar pressure Med light

If I was to buy one now i would also consider RRD obsession 9. I have one now it is very sweet kite. Landing my all my loops with nothing to it.

RRD Obsession : Boosting 10, Loop 10+ , Unhooked 9, Stability 9, hangtime 9, Bar pressure light

Hope this review helps. good luck!

Hmm I rode Obsession in 2009 and 2010. The 2009 was a loop machine. The 2010 much less so. I read a test recently where they also said the old Obsessions looped better/more powerful. Besides that they loved the kite.

Why do you characterise it as 9 for UH - like C4 and Vegas? I mean it is not a kite that generate a lot of slack for passes etc ?? Do you mean the Obsession Pro C kite?

I have only tried a Vegas 12m 2010 one time. I pulled a lot unhooked. Tried the 2010 C4 several times in several sizes. Upwind was extremely good, boosting not to good but UH very good.

I dont think you can go wrong with either Vegas or C4. You could try to demo the Hadlow ID.