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Bridles replaced twice in 6 months!

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Created by JZOrewa 26 days ago, 26 Mar 2019
JZOrewa
6 posts
26 Mar 2019 11:42AM
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The main bridles of my 11m 2014 F-One Bandit worn out and were about to break, so I replaced them by a 3mm dyneema rope.

I found out that the original pulleys were not working properly as the centre of the sheaves enlarged and doing so were scuffing the line, so I bought brand new pulleys from F-One.

Well, 6 months later it happened again. The pulleys are fine, but they keep scuffing the bridles.

Now I replaced the pulleys again, 4mm dyneema ropes and I am using those sheaveless block from Ronstan. So far so good.

It's interesting that I had other Bandits before, and that's the first time it happened to me. It's true that I'm looping the kite much more now, but I still think it shouldn't happen.

Just wondering if this problem happened to someone else...

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dafish
NSW, 1339 posts
26 Mar 2019 5:11PM
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this was a common problem the the Slingshot Rev kites from years ago. Great kite when tuned, but as soon as those Plines went out of balance the kite was a dog. I too ditched the pulleys for rings and got more out of the kite and less wear.

michaelgb
22 posts
26 Mar 2019 3:41PM
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Kites and there bridles do not last for ever, upgrade my kites every two years, next to go will be valves more than likely.

kemp90
QLD, 1646 posts
27 Mar 2019 9:50AM
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Yep totally understand. That happened to my 2013 bandits.

Plummet
4382 posts
27 Mar 2019 5:35PM
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Pullies wear bridles. You are obviously using your kites a lot. Replace them every 4 months if they brake every 6 months.

Different pullies can improve life as can thicker bridles.

Also cleaning sand off also helps.replace pullies before they get too sloppy.

Adam''KiteRepair
NSW, 75 posts
27 Mar 2019 9:53PM
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The bridle line Fone uses has a much higher resistance to abrasion than Dyneema. They tend to last a fair while but I do remember a model around That year that chewed a few up. Your current set up isn't bad but always a good idea to keep an eye on it. Don't forget that the previous bridle had a core, so you should notice the outer sheath is broken before it actually snaps.

cauncy
WA, 7044 posts
27 Mar 2019 9:00PM
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michaelgb said..
Kites and there bridles do not last for ever, upgrade my kites every two years, next to go will be valves more than likely.


Riding a c4 from 2010/11, no issues with Kite/ bridal or valves, used a lot

Adam''KiteRepair
NSW, 75 posts
28 Mar 2019 7:31AM
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cauncy said..

michaelgb said..
Kites and there bridles do not last for ever, upgrade my kites every two years, next to go will be valves more than likely.



Riding a c4 from 2010/11, no issues with Kite/ bridal or valves, used a lot


Niether does my Peter Lynn Arc!

JZOrewa
6 posts
29 Mar 2019 11:05AM
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Plummet said..
Pullies wear bridles. You are obviously using your kites a lot. Replace them every 4 months if they brake every 6 months.

Different pullies can improve life as can thicker bridles.

Also cleaning sand off also helps.replace pullies before they get too sloppy.


Replacing bridles every 6 months doesn't look right to me.
Pulleys shouldn't wear ropes this way, that's why they are designed for.
Since my last bridle update I already have some wear on the rope, so went back to the pulleys. Let's see how it goes.
If it doesn't work the next step will be get some of these pulleys: www.burnsco.co.nz/shop/boating/yacht-fittings/blocks/ronstan-ser-20-bb-orbit-block-sgl-lash-rf25109
I've been using the kite an average of once a week...

Fly on da wall
VIC, 678 posts
29 Mar 2019 8:52PM
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Yeah, I use those orbit pulleys and they have a big enough pulley wheel to eliminate twisting of line's which results in more shrinking when your on the water..but to your bridles and micro 2.0 eliminates and chance of wearing your bridles and your bridle line's getting stuck on the side of those micro ronstan pulleys that seize up typically..
2.0 1's are perfect.
I am bound to secrecy as to where they can be sourced due to litigation...
Most good kite shops should have them for sale otherwise pm me and I'll help you source them.

Ozone Kites Aus
NSW, 749 posts
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30 Mar 2019 3:49PM
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JZOrewa said..

Plummet said..
Pullies wear bridles. You are obviously using your kites a lot. Replace them every 4 months if they brake every 6 months.

Different pullies can improve life as can thicker bridles.

Also cleaning sand off also helps.replace pullies before they get too sloppy.



Replacing bridles every 6 months doesn't look right to me.
Pulleys shouldn't wear ropes this way, that's why they are designed for.
Since my last bridle update I already have some wear on the rope, so went back to the pulleys. Let's see how it goes.
If it doesn't work the next step will be get some of these pulleys: www.burnsco.co.nz/shop/boating/yacht-fittings/blocks/ronstan-ser-20-bb-orbit-block-sgl-lash-rf25109
I've been using the kite an average of once a week...


Kitepower sell those pulleys in Australia www.kitepower.com.au/products/ronstan-orbit-pulley-series-20?variant=22614937924
They are very high quality with needle roller bearings, and I'd recommend using the larger 4mm line if you can.



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