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Mystic extreme kite pump

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Created by Surfer62 > 9 months ago, 10 Jan 2017
Surfer62
VIC, 1129 posts
10 Jan 2017 6:08PM
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Build Quality: 10/10
Satisfaction: 11/10
RRP: $75

My Comments: Just bought the Mystic extreme kitepump, 50% larger/taller than standard pumps, choice of double or single action by closing or opening a valve on the pump.

First use, the extra height means you dont bend over at all, great for lower back, extra capacity means a lot less pumping, a real lot less. Pumped up my 11 in about 30 pumps as opposed to about 70 on the old pump.

Very smooth action, built in gauge, connectors to suit all kite valves, comes with a quality pull string style bag ( not sure why you need a bag but it can be reused as a good storage bag for other gear )

Awesome, love it, get one.




kemp90
QLD, 1534 posts
10 Jan 2017 8:55PM
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Looks the same as every other brands 2017 pumps

Woott
WA, 86 posts
10 Jan 2017 7:23PM
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Yup, off the shelve product.

BrisKites
QLD, 1178 posts
10 Jan 2017 9:24PM
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Taller-

cbulota
WA, 1098 posts
10 Jan 2017 7:55PM
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It's not a mystic pump or any other kite brand pump...all these pumps are made by the SAME manufacturer in China called GRI (look at the logo underneath the pump). They simply print the kite brand logo on it.

GRI has 3 pump models to choose from (HP1, HP2 and HP3) the one you show is the largest one.

Yes they are great pumps, but soon all kite brands will sell the same

Christian

toppleover
QLD, 1230 posts
10 Jan 2017 10:01PM
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Patiently waiting for my old school pump to die, so I can justify getting one of these new pumps.
I believe Ocean Rodeo & others do these taller pumps also.

cauncy
WA, 5512 posts
10 Jan 2017 8:03PM
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What's extreme
It makes it piss easy
Should be a tenth of the size
Then it'd be extreme

theDoctor
NSW, 4208 posts
10 Jan 2017 10:05PM
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Eppo leant Cauncy his pump, who then left it at the beach.






kernal
WA, 541 posts
10 Jan 2017 8:36PM
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kim kardashian

shi thouse
WA, 612 posts
10 Jan 2017 9:01PM
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Eppo leant Cauncy his pump, who then left it at the beach.




Bahahahahahahahaaha.........

eppo
WA, 6326 posts
10 Jan 2017 9:27PM
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No doc, pretty sure he keeps it near his chocolate starfish.

cauncy
WA, 5512 posts
11 Jan 2017 8:32AM
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Eppo leant Cauncy his pump, who then left it at the beach.









I took it home

horey69
QLD, 183 posts
11 Jan 2017 7:10PM
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Same as the new Slingy pumps delivered to your door $69 bucks

BrisKites
QLD, 1178 posts
11 Jan 2017 8:06PM
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Same as the new Slingy pumps delivered to your door $69 bucks


No, it's taller.

noodelsrominov
VIC, 265 posts
11 Jan 2017 9:59PM
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Anyone find that these new pumps don't connect well to the Boston valve (I think that what Naish use). It seems too small and you have to hold it in to the valve when pumping up. Also the north airport valves it seemed to have not enough undercut to snap it in ....or is it just my pump?

toppleover
QLD, 1230 posts
11 Jan 2017 10:08PM
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What pump you got Noodels?

kernal
WA, 541 posts
11 Jan 2017 8:52PM
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BrisKites said..

horey69 said..




Same as the new Slingy pumps delivered to your door $69 bucks



No, it's taller.


taller then the Kimi K pump?!?

horey69
QLD, 183 posts
12 Jan 2017 6:19AM
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It's the same as the Kim K pump she's built for a long stroke.

Puetz
NT, 2034 posts
12 Jan 2017 7:47AM
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noodelsrominov said..
Anyone find that these new pumps don't connect well to the Boston valve (I think that what Naish use). It seems too small and you have to hold it in to the valve when pumping up. Also the north airport valves it seemed to have not enough undercut to snap it in ....or is it just my pump?


... yep,,,,I have same same.

I got an Ozone branded GRI pump, fittings fit nicely to Ozone kites (ie boston valve), but also recently got a spare North branded GRI pump, which fits nicely to North kites (bayonet fitting) but,,,, swap the hoses and you find the fittings don't fit nicely at to the other brand as noodelsrominov says.

Easiest way around it was use the North branded hose on either pump but attach the little Ozone (Boston Valve) adaptor fitting and swap over as needed.

On a different note, and nit picking here but I found the Ozone branded hose splits easily after a little while, maybe its our heat or something. Despite the hose being pretty heavy duty compared to the old thin plastic hoses of yesteryear,,,, the damn thing splits. I keep cutting the split out and re joining it but its getting shorter and shorter,,,, started out about 1m long, now its 30cm and pretty much a pain in the ar~ss to use. None of the guys using the North hoses seem to be having trouble. Oh the humanity!!!

cheers,

Robbie


noodelsrominov
VIC, 265 posts
12 Jan 2017 9:41AM
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Puetz said...
noodelsrominov said..
Anyone find that these new pumps don't connect well to the Boston valve (I think that what Naish use). It seems too small and you have to hold it in to the valve when pumping up. Also the north airport valves it seemed to have not enough undercut to snap it in ....or is it just my pump?


... yep,,,,I have same same.

I got an Ozone branded GRI pump, fittings fit nicely to Ozone kites (ie boston valve), but also recently got a spare North branded GRI pump, which fits nicely to North kites (bayonet fitting) but,,,, swap the hoses and you find the fittings don't fit nicely at to the other brand as noodelsrominov says.

Easiest way around it was use the North branded hose on either pump but attach the little Ozone (Boston Valve) adaptor fitting and swap over as needed.

On a different note, and nit picking here but I found the Ozone branded hose splits easily after a little while, maybe its our heat or something. Despite the hose being pretty heavy duty compared to the old thin plastic hoses of yesteryear,,,, the damn thing splits. I keep cutting the split out and re joining it but its getting shorter and shorter,,,, started out about 1m long, now its 30cm and pretty much a pain in the ar~ss to use. None of the guys using the North hoses seem to be having trouble. Oh the humanity!!!

cheers,

Robbie




I'm actually using the north pump with north kites. I find I have to twist the hose so when attached to the airport valve it applies a twisting pressure to keep it attached otherwise it just comes off. I've also found that the other attachments don't stay connected to the hose due to not much of a snap lock on the hose.

Anyway, apart from this first world problem the pump seems good

noodelsrominov
VIC, 265 posts
12 Jan 2017 9:43AM
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toppleover said...
What pump you got Noodels?

I've got the north branded pump.

Puetz
NT, 2034 posts
12 Jan 2017 9:34AM
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noodelsrominov said..

Puetz said...

noodelsrominov said..
Anyone find that these new pumps don't connect well to the Boston valve (I think that what Naish use). It seems too small and you have to hold it in to the valve when pumping up. Also the north airport valves it seemed to have not enough undercut to snap it in ....or is it just my pump?



... yep,,,,I have same same.

I got an Ozone branded GRI pump, fittings fit nicely to Ozone kites (ie boston valve), but also recently got a spare North branded GRI pump, which fits nicely to North kites (bayonet fitting) but,,,, swap the hoses and you find the fittings don't fit nicely at to the other brand as noodelsrominov says.

Easiest way around it was use the North branded hose on either pump but attach the little Ozone (Boston Valve) adaptor fitting and swap over as needed.

On a different note, and nit picking here but I found the Ozone branded hose splits easily after a little while, maybe its our heat or something. Despite the hose being pretty heavy duty compared to the old thin plastic hoses of yesteryear,,,, the damn thing splits. I keep cutting the split out and re joining it but its getting shorter and shorter,,,, started out about 1m long, now its 30cm and pretty much a pain in the ar~ss to use. None of the guys using the North hoses seem to be having trouble. Oh the humanity!!!

cheers,

Robbie





I'm actually using the north pump with north kites. I find I have to twist the hose so when attached to the airport valve it applies a twisting pressure to keep it attached otherwise it just comes off. I've also found that the other attachments don't stay connected to the hose due to not much of a snap lock on the hose.

Anyway, apart from this first world problem the pump seems good


... just wondering, does your hose with the bayonet fitting end have a rubber seal thing attached to it?


noodelsrominov
VIC, 265 posts
12 Jan 2017 12:49PM
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Puetz said...
noodelsrominov said..

Puetz said...

noodelsrominov said..
Anyone find that these new pumps don't connect well to the Boston valve (I think that what Naish use). It seems too small and you have to hold it in to the valve when pumping up. Also the north airport valves it seemed to have not enough undercut to snap it in ....or is it just my pump?



... yep,,,,I have same same.

I got an Ozone branded GRI pump, fittings fit nicely to Ozone kites (ie boston valve), but also recently got a spare North branded GRI pump, which fits nicely to North kites (bayonet fitting) but,,,, swap the hoses and you find the fittings don't fit nicely at to the other brand as noodelsrominov says.

Easiest way around it was use the North branded hose on either pump but attach the little Ozone (Boston Valve) adaptor fitting and swap over as needed.

On a different note, and nit picking here but I found the Ozone branded hose splits easily after a little while, maybe its our heat or something. Despite the hose being pretty heavy duty compared to the old thin plastic hoses of yesteryear,,,, the damn thing splits. I keep cutting the split out and re joining it but its getting shorter and shorter,,,, started out about 1m long, now its 30cm and pretty much a pain in the ar~ss to use. None of the guys using the North hoses seem to be having trouble. Oh the humanity!!!

cheers,

Robbie





I'm actually using the north pump with north kites. I find I have to twist the hose so when attached to the airport valve it applies a twisting pressure to keep it attached otherwise it just comes off. I've also found that the other attachments don't stay connected to the hose due to not much of a snap lock on the hose.

Anyway, apart from this first world problem the pump seems good


... just wondering, does your hose with the bayonet fitting end have a rubber seal thing attached to it?




Do you mean the rubber o-ring things? If so yup. Do I maybe I need to push them down to create friction?

Puetz
NT, 2034 posts
13 Jan 2017 7:32AM
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noodelsrominov said..


Puetz said...




... just wondering, does your hose with the bayonet fitting end have a rubber seal thing attached to it?





Do you mean the rubber o-ring things? If so yup. Do I maybe I need to push them down to create friction?



... ah ok, I would have thought the o-ring rubber thing creates enough friction on its own so you don't have to do the pre-twist the hose so it doesn't undo. Not sure if you have to push it down more, give it a go and see.

Just wondering then, does kite have an airport 1 or airport 2 valve? Maybe there is a subtle difference in the bayonet bit?

If memory serves me correct, the first initial batch of 2014 Rebels and maybe other models were slightly different so North sent out a little adaptor. Next lot of kites seemed ok so must have been a difference some where along the line.

The new rubber o-ring hose works well with the latest version kites so I guess get another hose and/or fittings, at least the pump itself is fine. Hit your local dealer up.

cheers,

Robbie







noodelsrominov
VIC, 265 posts
13 Jan 2017 11:10AM
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Puetz said...
noodelsrominov said..


Puetz said...




... just wondering, does your hose with the bayonet fitting end have a rubber seal thing attached to it?





Do you mean the rubber o-ring things? If so yup. Do I maybe I need to push them down to create friction?



... ah ok, I would have thought the o-ring rubber thing creates enough friction on its own so you don't have to do the pre-twist the hose so it doesn't undo. Not sure if you have to push it down more, give it a go and see.

Just wondering then, does kite have an airport 1 or airport 2 valve? Maybe there is a subtle difference in the bayonet bit?

If memory serves me correct, the first initial batch of 2014 Rebels and maybe other models were slightly different so North sent out a little adaptor. Next lot of kites seemed ok so must have been a difference some where along the line.

The new rubber o-ring hose works well with the latest version kites so I guess get another hose and/or fittings, at least the pump itself is fine. Hit your local dealer up.

cheers,

Robbie









Brand new 2017 evos. I was thinking wow these pumps require such little force until I realized the kite wasn't inflating and I was inflating the sand on the beach.

Puetz
NT, 2034 posts
13 Jan 2017 10:59AM
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noodelsrominov said..

Puetz said...

noodelsrominov said..



Puetz said...




... just wondering, does your hose with the bayonet fitting end have a rubber seal thing attached to it?





Do you mean the rubber o-ring things? If so yup. Do I maybe I need to push them down to create friction?




... ah ok, I would have thought the o-ring rubber thing creates enough friction on its own so you don't have to do the pre-twist the hose so it doesn't undo. Not sure if you have to push it down more, give it a go and see.

Just wondering then, does kite have an airport 1 or airport 2 valve? Maybe there is a subtle difference in the bayonet bit?

If memory serves me correct, the first initial batch of 2014 Rebels and maybe other models were slightly different so North sent out a little adaptor. Next lot of kites seemed ok so must have been a difference some where along the line.

The new rubber o-ring hose works well with the latest version kites so I guess get another hose and/or fittings, at least the pump itself is fine. Hit your local dealer up.

cheers,

Robbie










Brand new 2017 evos. I was thinking wow these pumps require such little force until I realized the kite wasn't inflating and I was inflating the sand on the beach.


... ahh ok, interesting.

I know what you mean, little force needed, amazing now these modern kites with the new valves work so well.

I got a 2017 14m Evo too and man, it's one of the easiest kites to pump up bar none. I thought my Ozone was easy until the Evo turned up. I've been using my Ozone branded pump and hose to pump up the Evo and although it connects firmly, it does hiss a little (ie no o-ring thingy) but seeing as it pumps up so quickly, a couple extra pumps to compensate is no biggie.

See what your dealer says and let us know.

Robbie :)

pro merc
NSW, 272 posts
24 Jan 2017 10:10AM
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Another Mystic product that you will have no luck getting warranty on if it breaks.

Ozone Kites Aus
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25 Jan 2017 11:30AM
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Just travelled in WA with a guy who had a 2017 North Neo, pump hoses from Ozone pumps def do not fit, only his North hose would work (on either pump). I did not notice any difference between pumps though as far as effort or speed goes (or anything else)
The Ozone pump hose end is too large to fit into the North valve on the leading edge of the kite and I suspect all of the new non North hose ends are too as they are all essentially the same brand.
The north hose had a special end that fits neatly into the north kite valve with a silicone washer thing built into the hose end.

@Puetz
Disconnect pump hose from pump when finished, if you kink it they do split eventually.

Puetz
NT, 2034 posts
28 Jan 2017 9:34AM
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Ozone Kites Aus said..
Just travelled in WA with a guy who had a 2017 North Neo, pump hoses from Ozone pumps def do not fit, only his North hose would work (on either pump). I did not notice any difference between pumps though as far as effort or speed goes (or anything else)
The Ozone pump hose end is too large to fit into the North valve on the leading edge of the kite and I suspect all of the new non North hose ends are too as they are all essentially the same brand.
The north hose had a special end that fits neatly into the north kite valve with a silicone washer thing built into the hose end.

@Puetz
Disconnect pump hose from pump when finished, if you kink it they do split eventually.



... yep,,, easiest way to swap between brands without hassles is just grab the North hose (ie hose with silicone washer thingy) and add the small fitting that fits on the Ozones perfectly to the end of the hose then just use correct fitting as needed.

@ Ozone kites: no worries, good advise but I never leave the hose in, never have. I always wrap hose around pump after use then use the pump leash hooked over handle to hold the lot together,,, keeps the hose from getting lost and attached without stress and also keeps the shaft locked in so sand doesn't stick to the shaft. I got taught a valuable lesson when travelling overseas, by some douche bag pin head who said, "I never travel mit my pump, I always borrow dem when I travel" who then borrowed the my pump (without asking I might add) and broke it then some a-hole stole my spare,,, not happy Jan. Now I hide it away all wrapped up.

I suspect the hoses Ozone use might be affected by heat, for some reason the heavier duty plastic cracks sooner than the thinner North hose. I don't think I'm rough with it but then again, I do use it a lot.

Robbie

Puetz
NT, 2034 posts
31 Jan 2017 8:15AM
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Puetz said..

Ozone Kites Aus said..
Just travelled in WA with a guy who had a 2017 North Neo, pump hoses from Ozone pumps def do not fit, only his North hose would work (on either pump). I did not notice any difference between pumps though as far as effort or speed goes (or anything else)
The Ozone pump hose end is too large to fit into the North valve on the leading edge of the kite and I suspect all of the new non North hose ends are too as they are all essentially the same brand.
The north hose had a special end that fits neatly into the north kite valve with a silicone washer thing built into the hose end.

@Puetz
Disconnect pump hose from pump when finished, if you kink it they do split eventually.




... yep,,, easiest way to swap between brands without hassles is just grab the North hose (ie hose with silicone washer thingy) and add the small fitting that fits on the Ozones perfectly to the end of the hose then just use correct fitting as needed.

@ Ozone kites: no worries, good advise but I never leave the hose in, never have. I always wrap hose around pump after use then use the pump leash hooked over handle to hold the lot together,,, keeps the hose from getting lost and attached without stress and also keeps the shaft locked in so sand doesn't stick to the shaft. I got taught a valuable lesson when travelling overseas, by some douche bag pin head who said, "I never travel mit my pump, I always borrow dem when I travel" who then borrowed the my pump (without asking I might add) and broke it then some a-hole stole my spare,,, not happy Jan. Now I hide it away all wrapped up.

I suspect the hoses Ozone use might be affected by heat, for some reason the heavier duty plastic cracks sooner than the thinner North hose. I don't think I'm rough with it but then again, I do use it a lot.

Robbie


... correction... hoses same same between North and Ozone with the newer versions,,, meant to say North "fitting" are thinner plastic.

Ozone Kites Aus
NSW, 573 posts
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1 Feb 2017 7:04AM
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Puetz said..

Ozone Kites Aus said..
Just travelled in WA with a guy who had a 2017 North Neo, pump hoses from Ozone pumps def do not fit, only his North hose would work (on either pump). I did not notice any difference between pumps though as far as effort or speed goes (or anything else)
The Ozone pump hose end is too large to fit into the North valve on the leading edge of the kite and I suspect all of the new non North hose ends are too as they are all essentially the same brand.
The north hose had a special end that fits neatly into the north kite valve with a silicone washer thing built into the hose end.

@Puetz
Disconnect pump hose from pump when finished, if you kink it they do split eventually.




... yep,,, easiest way to swap between brands without hassles is just grab the North hose (ie hose with silicone washer thingy) and add the small fitting that fits on the Ozones perfectly to the end of the hose then just use correct fitting as needed.

@ Ozone kites: no worries, good advise but I never leave the hose in, never have. I always wrap hose around pump after use then use the pump leash hooked over handle to hold the lot together,,, keeps the hose from getting lost and attached without stress and also keeps the shaft locked in so sand doesn't stick to the shaft. I got taught a valuable lesson when travelling overseas, by some douche bag pin head who said, "I never travel mit my pump, I always borrow dem when I travel" who then borrowed the my pump (without asking I might add) and broke it then some a-hole stole my spare,,, not happy Jan. Now I hide it away all wrapped up.

I suspect the hoses Ozone use might be affected by heat, for some reason the heavier duty plastic cracks sooner than the thinner North hose. I don't think I'm rough with it but then again, I do use it a lot.

Robbie


Haha I can totally believe that pump vampire story I've met a few 2868's like that myself, pump goes back inside my kite back at a certain spot where there are a lot of transient kiters.
I've not heard of any issues with the Ozone pump hose and to me they seem the same at most other brands (except North) and I've not heard of them splitting, could be heat related but it gets damn hot in WA and even round here and in Qld for sure.

The most annoying this that none of the brands have ever addressed is that the hoses cannot be purchased separately. I heard once that WFMG were going to do it but don't know if thats true now?



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