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North Neo one size small true or false ?

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Created by sonny2727 26 days ago, 27 Jul 2017
sonny2727
VIC, 97 posts
27 Jul 2017 9:50AM
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North says get a Neo 1-2 sizes smaller than your other kites. Is this true? I have 9m Rebel with stated wind range of 15-33kts and considering 7m Neo but if I believe 1-2 sizes small story then my wind range wont change and I'm just wasting money ...

castill0jf
VIC, 516 posts
27 Jul 2017 12:35PM
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true. I am the kiter who demo everything I can get my hands on. Also, observe other gear and kiters on the water.
I own

SST 2016 waves slingshot
Neo 2015

Ride 2015
REO 2012
and many other kites I have sold

The WOW and the RRD religion could be equal as the NEO but I only demo them for a few hours.

The Sole has more grunt but I don't like them for kite surfing

cheers

27 Jul 2017 11:04AM
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Hi Sonny,

The Neo is about the same power as the Rebel. In 2016 North evened out the power of all of their kites to be about the same. The North kites are more powerful than many other brands so if comparing to say an Ozone Reo, or Best Cabo, or Core Section, then yes, the North Neo would be 1-2 sizes smaller to have the equivalent power.

The Neo won't have the same range as a Rebel due to the 5 strut vs 3 strut canopy. Neo's work best in their low to upper mid part of their stated wind range. The Neo also develops its power differently to the Rebel. Neo has much more sheet and go power as opposed to the Rebel which has about half of the sheet and go power but develops loads of apparent wind power once it is moving. This is, in part, why the Rebel has such a huge wind range. Keeping the speed down keeps the power controllable when over powered.

Hope this helps

DM

sonny2727
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27 Jul 2017 2:22PM
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ActionSportsWA said..
Hi Sonny,

The Neo is about the same power as the Rebel. In 2016 North evened out the power of all of their kites to be about the same. The North kites are more powerful than many other brands so if comparing to say an Ozone Reo, or Best Cabo, or Core Section, then yes, the North Neo would be 1-2 sizes smaller to have the equivalent power.

The Neo won't have the same range as a Rebel due to the 5 strut vs 3 strut canopy. Neo's work best in their low to upper mid part of their stated wind range. The Neo also develops its power differently to the Rebel. Neo has much more sheet and go power as opposed to the Rebel which has about half of the sheet and go power but develops loads of apparent wind power once it is moving. This is, in part, why the Rebel has such a huge wind range. Keeping the speed down keeps the power controllable when over powered.

Hope this helps

DM


Thanks so this means if I'm getting 2016 plus Neo then 7m would be ok but previous years maybe 6m

27 Jul 2017 12:41PM
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Yes,

Neo's were brought into line with the others in around 2015. In 2016 Dice was also made more grunty to also fall in line with the rest of the range of kites.

It's always better to demo if at all possible to see for yourself rather than take my word for it.

DM

pintofpale
SA, 229 posts
29 Jul 2017 8:11AM
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I find the 7m really powerful.. I'm moving down a size to a 6m... I also have a 10 which I find there is less of a difference between other brands 10m. So I would say Neo is more powerful compared to other brands in smaller sizes. (I have 2015 kites) My friend has 2017 Neo's and they seem similar power to mine but better windrange. I used to fly Rebels and the Neos are more powerful.. I went down a size.

kiter49
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8 Aug 2017 6:37PM
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I bought the 2016 version last year , 12 meters thinking I was going to get a 13 but I don't think so . May be the previous year were bigger for their sizes ? for me the 12 is a 12 . I can add one thing though , the back lines need to be well adjusted , if too shorts than the Neo will pull very much . Also this kite needs a high V , they behave way better rigged on the North bars .

weebitbreezy
260 posts
8 Aug 2017 10:27PM
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ActionSportsWA said..
Yes,

Neo's were brought into line with the others in around 2015. In 2016 Dice was also made more grunty to also fall in line with the rest of the range of kites.

It's always better to demo if at all possible to see for yourself rather than take my word for it.

DM


Although back to back, a 2016 Dice feels at least a size (maybe 2) smaller than a 2016 Neo. If I'm nicely powered on the Dice, I'm pulling the trim fully in on the Neo and still feeling pretty powered up. The Neo has a fairly flat profile so has a high projected area. Note I'm talking back to back on a twin tip. Might be different on a surfboard.

North usually benchmark their kite power against the rebel which itself is considered a juicy beast - hence the Neo was about a size bigger (more noticeable in the smaller sizes - 9 and below) and the dice considered to be a size smaller.



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