Kite Boarding Ban Holdfast Bay

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PaulB
PaulB
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7 Dec 2004 1:13pm
Does anybody have any information on the status of the kite surfing ban in Holdfast Bay? I've heard so many things regarding kite boarding at Seacliff, twice the council ranger has asked me to pack up and move on, some times he drives straight past and doesn’t care, once he said it was o.k. to launch only from the water or from the rocks at Kingston Park. Some body mentioned that in front of the yacht club on Seacliff beach was O.k. to kite board because it was part of Marion city council and there is no ban in that council area.
If the Ban is still enforced in Holdfast Bay is there anybody out there that is currently in disscussion with the council or interested in putting forward a model to the council that will incorperate safety regulations e.g SAKSA I.D tags, public liability insurance e.t.c
Adam Ratajewski
Adam Ratajewski
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SA, 70 posts
8 Dec 2004 12:58pm
I know that onboard have been in discussions with the council. Give them a call and ask for Mike or Pete.
RobertOkx
RobertOkx
WA
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WA, 5 posts
10 Dec 2004 8:41pm
Hello Paul,
SAKSA was not informed or consulted in relation to the ban imposed in the Holdfast Bay area so the Association never had the opportunity to argue a different model such as the one being proposed for Port Adelaide Enfield City Council (ie the permit system). I understand that Onboard represented kite surfing in the Holdfast Bay area so the association does not have any knowledge of what discussions actually took place between Council and Onboard.

Refering to the scanned document at www.saksa.netfirms.com/saksa_Bans.htm this is my interpretation of the status of kite surfing in the Holdfast Bay Council.
"Council Land" ends at the low tide mark (note that this point is a bit difficult to determine given the movement of sand, tides etc). This is where Holdfast Bay's jurisdiction ends as far as the setting of by-laws. The by-law currently in place bans the launching and flying of a kite with more than one line on council land. This by-law has actually been in place for a number of years however only now has been enforced in relation to kite surfers. By enforcing this kite flying ban on the beach council hopes to prevent kite surfing from accessing the water. This is the same strategy employed with Jet Skis ie ban jet skis from launching via ramps from the beach and therefore prevent access to the water.

In reality there is no ban of kite surfing in the water in areas which are not designated controlled areas which have a vessel prohibition under the Harbors and Navigation Regulations (1994). These controlled areas are defined under Schedule 4 of the regulations. For the controlled areas in Brighton (areas 1 to 5) as shown on the scanned document the following rules apply:
“1 - A person must not take a vessel into the specified waters or cause or permit a vessel to enter or remain in the specified waters.”
“4 - A person must not ski, aquaplane or be towed in any other manner by a vessel in the specified water”
Note that the controlled areas are 100m out from the low tide mark.
For the Glenelg controlled area the following rules apply:
“3 - A person must not operate a vessel into the specified waters at a speed in excess of 4 knots or in a planning attitude.”
“5 - A person must not ski, aquaplane or be towed in any other manner by a vessel in the specified waters at a speed in excess of 4 knots”
The Glenelg controlled areas are 200m out from the low tide mark.

Note that Council inspectors have a delegation under the legislation to police and enforce Transport SA regulations which include enforcing:
- the PDF rule
- the rules above which apply to controlled zones
- speed limits
- etc

Holdfast Bay council ends at the southern boundary which according to my reading of the map is a line from Way Place out to sea. South of this line is City of Marion so I believe there are no kite flying / launching restrictions in place. I have not been up this part of the coast for some time so don’t know what the suitability of this area is for launching. From memory it’s quiet rocky and possibly quiet dangerous.

What I believe this all means is that there is no law against kite surfing in areas which are not controlled areas as long as you don’t launch or fly a kite on Council land. This means you can kite in the uncontrolled areas on the map out from Holdfast City beaches. The only option for launching the kite appears therefore to water launch the kite within the uncontrolled areas beyond the low tide mark.

If anyone has a different interpretation of the status of kite surfing in Holdfast Bay or has spotted a mistake in the above explanation please post a correction.

Thanks
Robert
Peter Ciesa
Peter Ciesa
SA
20 posts
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12 Dec 2004 10:00am
G'day Robert,
In my view it is sad to see overzealous use of regulation to control sports where in this instance it only protects such a small percentage of the population who use beaches!
As a legitimate sport the council takes away on one hand but provides no alternatives. Surely there is a requirment that they do so? I mean if they are really concerned about public safety why don't they ban people from beaches which seems to be such a dangerous place! Arh I jest but none the less these regulations sicken me:-( We are over-regulated!
Also Mike Sagan you are a legend for making the front page of the Messanger. Photo of him with kite in hand looking forlorn at Holdfast banning kites:-(

All the best Robert.

Cheers Peter

Cheers Peter Ciesa
Peter Ciesa
Peter Ciesa
SA
20 posts
SA, 20 posts
14 Dec 2004 9:07am
I heard that a Holdfast Bay council inspector was patrolling the beaches on Sunday 12th Dec and giving out pamphlets and warnings for these new Council Bylaws. He spoke to all windsurfers in sight.

The noose is a tightening

Cheers Peter Ciesa
PaulB
PaulB
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20 Dec 2004 1:47pm
I went kiteboarding at seacliff on Sunday 19 December. The ranger did not ask anybody to leave the beach when he drove past. It looks like the ban is not being policed anymore or it depends on what ranger is working on the day.
RobertOkx
RobertOkx
WA
5 posts
WA, 5 posts
30 Dec 2004 7:34am
I've heard through the grape vine that there have been some negotiations with Holdfast Bay council to allow kite surfing at Kingston Park.
It sounds like officially they are taking a hardline for the purposes of reducing their exposure to financial risk, in the event of legal action, however are taking a more lenient approach to policing the by-law. I'd be surprised if council put anything official out in relation to allowing kite surfing at Kingston Park.
Adam Ratajewski
Adam Ratajewski
SA
70 posts
SA, 70 posts
10 May 2005 10:09pm
hey gusta, Shiit that sucks! That woulda sucked, when seacliff fires its a great spot. The flat sections between the kickers. I actually miss seacliff on those days, probs one of the better spots in adel. Sucks bout the council. Cottesloes had similar probs so i know wat ya mean. 5th line hey? How r ya enjoyin the rhino5s neway?
murf
murf
SA
478 posts
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11 May 2005 9:39am
Hey Rat

Gusta is a tight arse and he is still on his old gear. What do you expect from an accountant!!!!!!
Adam Ratajewski
Adam Ratajewski
SA
70 posts
SA, 70 posts
11 May 2005 10:27am
hehe...u'd think the christmas bonus for his accounting would be atleast a couple of new rhinos or something tho, wouldn't ya?

riding much trav? When are you off to NZ to shread those slopes?
murf
murf
SA
478 posts
SA, 478 posts
11 May 2005 7:40pm
Hey Rat

Im not too sure when thats going to happen. Sykes, Susan, Inge and myself are looking to come over for a month in summer. Looking to go from Margrets to Gnarloo. Sing out if your keen to do some of that trip. When ya coming over to Adelaide again?. Also hows the girlfriend that I have never met yet!!!!!!!

P.S

Gusta is a tight arse!!!!
action_ms69
action_ms69
SA
242 posts
SA, 242 posts
30 Nov 2005 12:48pm
Well, its a crab thing that Holdfast have done. Rob has out on the SAKBA Web site a copy of the minutes from one of their meetings. In these minutes is says that Kingston Beach is allowed to be Kited on. So download a copy of these minutes and leave them in your car. So when that lovely guy comes and asks you to move on, show him the minutes and put in back in his BOX. But we are allowed only on Kingston beach, not seacliff boat ramp or Gladstone road. Well me an other crew will still try and ride at Gladstone and Seacliff boat ramp until we are fined. At this stage to my knowledge they can still only warn us.

Happy Kiting.
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