It's already a great event and apart from the Nationals, probably the best one in Australia. The one thing that would help and cut down on time between heats would be to have someone on the beach with a two way upto the judges to check the riders in at the upwind start area.

Organise to have it somewhere with flat water. I saw way to many riders on a certain brand of kite with it out to lunch popping the chop. Then there were some riders that could actually pop of the flat but the conditions weren't all that flash for them. If all you want to see in the future is people sheeting in and out on there cab bars keep having it at Grange.

in response to blockboy.

im not sure if you where watching the event at all but 1st and 2nd in opens, masters, amatures and womens, all went to non-cabrinha riders???

the reason the winners, won is because they can ride in all condtions. and are good allround riders.

Grange is a great venue for many reasons, which all far outway the slight choppyness. (which all adelaide riders are used too).

sorry you didnt enjoy it.

I sure know i did.

Don't get me wrong but i thought the comp was good the finals were awesome, i thought this thread was about how to make it better, i didn't realise there were no good spots to kite in SA. But if you just want to make it in to some sort of name calling **** fight go for it. Hell i have read the SAKSA forums for long enough that quite a few of the names above are people associated with SAKSA.

Way to promote yourself SAKSA

Do you actually kite Bigblock or are you a Couch Kiter and just watch YouTube and read kite mags?!? The conditions at Grange were sweet. As you would know, not all PKRA events are held at flat water locations. If the tide was different the flat section would have been bigger. This thread isn't asking where should it be moved to, but how to make it better. The Grange Sailing Club is a great venue, for both spectators and judges.

Go out, ride hard or go home and quit your complaining. Looks like we have another Waxman....

loverboy said...

blocky- maybe you don't realise but your original posts in the state titles thread were negative, straight off the bat stating that you hadn't seen any good riders in SA...if you had suggested that the comp be held somewhere with flatter water instead of having a crack at riders of a certain kite you may have got a different response.

meh- gonna go ride my Cabrinha ....maaaaaa...

Maybe you have taken things the wrong way, here is what i said,

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The judging is a job i would not wish on anyone. The technical aspect of the sport is way above any riders i have met since moving to SA.

So let me break it down for you Loveroflittleboys, Judging a comp is hard, most riders don't even know the name of half the tricks they will see at the comp let alone the technical aspect of judging it.(i'm not saying there aren't people doing these tricks) so therefore judging is hard. Especially if you are relying on local riders to judge.

Not once did i say there was no good riders in SA, so stop being so pathetic.

And if you check the facts, there were a lot of Cabrinha kites there, and not all but a lot rode them the way i described, there wasn't enough of any other brand of kite there to make a general comment about even though there were others riding this way. I always find it funny, the stereotype for cab riders is spot on most of the time. And who am i to resist a little fun, when people like you bite so well.

Loverboy i'm not sure what your problem is, maybe you weren't breast fed, or maybe you are still on the tit. But why don't you just go back to playing BlackOpps with your 13yr old mates and wait until your mom can take you to the beach for a kite.

im all for people having a say.

but when someone rattles of BS with no grounds for their argument it makes me a little irrate.

Loverboy is actually one of adelaides most inflential and passoniate kiters.

i think you should do some more research?? make an effort to meet and talk to the locals or go hide under what ever rock youve recently crawled out from.

good luck either way

p.s we are running a kite comp not a skimboard title i think wind is more important then tide??? correct

First of all, it's spelt B-O-A-R-D

Maybe you should join the committee and become the tide specialist?

The organisers didn't fail a thing at all.

Where was your contribution? The only thing I've seen you contribute is a lot of mind blowing complaining and a 'know it all' attitude.

Constructive.

jordy said...

First of all, it's spelt B-O-A-R-D

Maybe you should join the committee and become the tide specialist?

The organisers didn't fail a thing at all.

Where was your contribution? The only thing I've seen you contribute is a lot of mind blowing complaining and a 'know it all' attitude.

Constructive.

Don't get upset, i was just going off of what Martynbone wrote about the tide, Why start a thread about ways to improve things if you can't handle any criticism?

Was the dodge tide taken in to consideration when selecting the date?

And why would i wan't to contribute to anything you guys organise when all you have done is get upset, scared and confused about everything i have asked or commented on. You really seem to have some irrational fears to outsiders that come in from somewhere else who's views vary. I don't have a lot of time to kite let alone organise events like this. I know yo guys put a lot of work in to it so well done.

I'm sorry, bigblock. Im the one personally responsible for choosing the dates for the comp and silly me, I read the tide charts incorrectly and wasn't able to make the change by the time I realized my mistake.

Regarding your comment on the channel. These channels change all year round and can't be predicted 6 months out, when we began organizing it.

You've mentioned in the past about the inland rain activity being a bad thing for the comp, once again, impossible to forecast the wettest summer in 35 years 6 months out from the comp.

Please realize that these comps are done purely on a volunteer basis and we all have full-time jobs. We do it because we want to see the sport progress in skill level and participation. Guys like Corey, ben and Martyn have an opportunity to enter e national comps because their home state cares enough to organize a comp so they can qualify. Perhaps just lay off the criticisms a little on factors that are clearly out of peoples hands or even are just fairly minuscule in the scheme of things.

Cheers,
croc
Proud Cab rider!

Bigblock, Bigblock hides under a rock.
Won't pull a kiteloop cause he's got a little cock.
Hides down at Aldinga on his couch all day
Yelling at Len10 'You don't do it that way'!

If there was wind in the air on the beach it would blow
But Bigblock won't be riding cause the tides running slow
Sit's on his couch and rests his arse
And yells at the TV ' Hadlow, that's not how you do a handle pass'!!

Front to blind, Mobe to toe
Sit's on the couch, waiting for the wind to blow.
Wanting flat water, not that Henley chop
One day he dreams off pulling a back roll
And not a back flop!

Wow, so much hatred in this kite community.

Kitecroc, **** happens. I didn't think that anyone would have knowingly organised a comp on that date if they knew the tides i was actually thinking they must have been spot on all day for the flat water. But look you got a decent amount of wind to run the comp, plenty of entrants and a few spectators. I was expecting to see a lot more people coming down for a look. Do you advertise it on TV or in the Paper might cost some coin but it really does bring the people interested in the sport down to have a look. Might be something to look into, to promote the sport better in the future. More spectators = more publicity = more sponsors wanting to get in on the action. I couldn't believe my eyes when i saw the redbull there, that mob have a lot of cash and i'm sure they put a lot of prize money up for grabs, especially with the exposure they got, were they the major sponsor?

Cheer up guys, i'm sure next year will be bigger and better

BigBlock said...

I couldn't believe my eyes when i saw the redbull there, that mob have a lot of cash and i'm sure they put a lot of prize money up for grabs, especially with the exposure they got, were they the major sponsor?

I'll give you the heads up Bigblock as a RedBull rider.... To get RedBull to spend any money on an event other than what they organise is super tricky. RedBull HQ in Europe have the final say on what happens. If they spend money on the SA State Titles they will have to spend on every other State Titles and the Nationals.... to make it simple... it'll never happen. SAKSA aren't allowed to use the RedBull logo on the tees or marketing items. I think everyone has come to the conclusion that kiting will never get the major sponsors, we are greatful to get the sponsors we do.

It takes alot of effort and planning to get RedBull there and it nearly didn't happen, big thanks to Ross at RedBull for getting it organised for us.

So if redbull didn't flip the bill for some decent cash prises, what did the winners walk away with. Giving out kites and boards to good riders is pointless as they will just get sold.

Lets get back to the question...how can you improve your comp?

Comp was great...
A couple of things that i noticed as a competitor and have ran a few comps myself.
The flag issue was only an issue because the upwind start flag was too far upwind ,simple to fix.Then move it down and take the downwind one downwind...
There was alot of time wasted waiting to start the heats,but hey Jordans mouth was prob dry!! and he got a beer and we ran with it.
I only have 2 real issues and they were.....
Far too many people in comp zone area on the beach,in and out of the water,maybe if the council lets you next year run your orange flags 4m back from water and back 40m to create a free zone to stop the onlookers getting in the way.Just glad there werent any there when i got hit by Andys kite cos im sure it wouldnt of been just me taken out.
And maybe the prizes next year...especially the OPENS and the JUNIORS ,great trophies but include a good prize as well, instead of putting those into your random draw as everyone would agree these riders deserve a bit more.
As for location-still a nice spot to ride,the kickers to the left are great! But im sure we could combine our comp in Whyalla next year and have a huge State Titles... Does anyone agree?? One comp! More Prizes! More helpers! More riders!!!
Something to think about SAKSA...just a suggestion.
Congrats again for a great comp!!!
Easto and Jac