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jakeyoung
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7 Aug 2012 10:15pm
Trying to think of a way to keep my board with me while my kite is in the water. as i just about lost my board today but a another kiteter. got it for me. heard bad things about the leash reel thinking of putting a little bit of rope on the back of my harness and when my kite goes in the water tie it to the board and when i get the kite up untie it?
Genetrix
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8 Aug 2012 12:35pm
Hi Jake, what have you heard about the reel leash?
Chaps
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8 Aug 2012 3:08pm
Why not put the board back on your feet and then relaunch the kite with the board already on?

You can either hot launch or gradually work the kite to the edge of the window for a relaunch. This should help your board skills in general, by learning where the harness pulls from, through your body, to the resistance points in your feet and the board against the water.
coastflyer
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8 Aug 2012 5:18pm
Hi Jake, I have been using a reel leash for over two years, without a problem. I can body drag as well as anyone, but my reason for using it is because I had a close call with a white pointer shark and prefer the risk of getting speared by my board than being eaten, while body dragging 50 metres upwind to get to my board. If you have to use a leash, the reel type is less likely to spring back at you than a surfboard type. Be warned, all leashes are dangerous in this sport, and if you decide to use one, please weigh up all of the pros and cons. One guy at my local spot uses a very short surf style leash that is about 1.3 metres long. When you come off your board, you are far enough from the board not to land on it, but it is not long enough to be able to spring back at you. He has been using it for over 4 years without a problem and he does lot's of big jumps. He also wears a helmet.Also, I have a weak link in the braid material that is used as the leash, and this will break with approx 50-80 kgs of force. I have snapped this several times after completely stuffing up a jump and becoming separated from the board.
Genetrix said...

Hi Jake, what have you heard about the reel leash?


kitecroc
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8 Aug 2012 8:05pm
Hey Jake,

Put it back on your feet, it will actually help you water relaunch your kite quicker. The more resistance you put against your kite when trying to relaunch, the faster it will relaunch. This is especially noticeable when trying to relaunch your kite in light winds.

Croc
Transition_Surf
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8 Aug 2012 9:02pm
kitecroc said...

Hey Jake,

Put it back on your feet, it will actually help you water relaunch your kite quicker. The more resistance you put against your kite when trying to relaunch, the faster it will relaunch. This is especially noticeable when trying to relaunch your kite in light winds.

Croc


What Crocker said!! He beat me to it....
mattrixx
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8 Aug 2012 10:08pm
Hey guys,
That's an awesome piece of advice. Especially in regard to low wind relaunch and effective braking of the drag to at least use effectively, what wind is there. Hadn't really thought about that... but have had to deal with it more often than I'd like to and this WILL help!

I must admit, I've been curious in regard to the leash thing and wondered if it were only really an issue with those who are taking those daring next 'jumping' steps. (or post 40's with a young family and a less daring kinda nature).
I've also thought about the idea of having a line that I can deploy just after separation... when the board is still nearby, whilst I sort out a kite or line issue. ie An easy to connect, light weight carabiner with a bypass leash that can attach to a nylon loop that's attached to one of your fin screws.
The bypass leash wouldn't permit you to ride with it, ie It'd be too short, but while you're sorting lines, relaxing, or warming your wet suit you're not concerned with the location of yer deck.

Splat76
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8 Aug 2012 10:27pm
agreed!!most times i lost my board i was too far away from it to hook up any sort of lines, but still a good idea.(best place is on your feet)relax and take it slow and stick the kite either straight up till you get sorted then out too the side of the window, which ever way you think is best to get back to your board. As said the more resistance against the board the easier to keep your feet in even if going down wind a lil till up and riding keep at it and it will all come together.
mattrixx
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8 Aug 2012 11:08pm
Yep... makes total sense and now that I've read it here, the relaunch in marginal winds prospect improving with keeping the feet in the board, I ain't gettin' one. (recoil leash) Getting the board back in marginal wind is difficult, but in my very short experience, it's been more about recognising when it's a good time to pack it in. ... 'Just one more bet!'

I'm gonna rejig my idea for taking out some floats and crab nets.
In the mean time, praying for the wind and young family gods to sort some wind out at an appropriate time, to learn this healthy addiction further!
mick14
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9 Aug 2012 8:51am
Also, don't wait until you actually lose a board to get around to writing your name and number on it. Steal stationery from work and do it TODAY!
Rooboy
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9 Aug 2012 4:37pm
Sorry lads off topic but i want to hear more about Coastflyers encounter with the big bitie thing. Ive been kiting 8 or 9 years and never seen a shark. Where was this and how close was the encounter?
coastflyer
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9 Aug 2012 7:32pm
Rooboy, I'll bite mate, no pun intended! It happened two summers ago off Seacliff very close to the wave recorder, more or less directly in front of the Seacliff Hotel. The wave recorder is about 600 metres off shore. I had come off my board, and was body dragging upwind to my board, when I saw a fin about 10 metre away just very slowly cruising by. At first I thought it was a dolphin, but they normally don't stay on the surface. I continued to my board, which fortunately was not too far away, trying not to splash or disturb the water too much. As i was getting my feet into the straps, it swam right next to me and I could see that it was at least a 3-4 metre shark!! I kited straight back into the beach, and I felt like I was in a mild form of shock. This was as close as I have come to possibly dieing, and for me to continue doing this sport that I love, I had to come up with a solution where I had my board close to me as much as possible. Ironically enough while watching the evening news that night, some fishermen in a small tinny off Glenelg were circled by a 4 metre white shark, and one of them showed his mobile phone video to prove it!
This fatal shark attack occurred on Yorke Peninsula, apparently while he was positioning his board for a water start.
The Go Joe is another option and works extremely well.


www.oceanrodeo.com/kiting/go_joe

www.listphile.com/






Rooboy said...

Sorry lads off topic but i want to hear more about Coastflyers encounter with the big bitie thing. Ive been kiting 8 or 9 years and never seen a shark. Where was this and how close was the encounter?


mattrixx
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10 Aug 2012 2:54pm
Whoa... I hope the hell I never see one!
jakeyoung
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10 Aug 2012 6:33pm
I have heard that if you board stick in the water and theses a lot of tension on the board and the kite is pulling you and when the board pops up out the water it comes at you people have been knocked out and much worse.
Genetrix said...

Hi Jake, what have you heard about the reel leash?


jakeyoung
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10 Aug 2012 7:22pm
where did u see the white pointer
coastflyer said...

Hi Jake, I have]] been using a reel leash for over two years, without a problem. I can body drag as well as anyone, but my reason for using it is because I had a close call with a white pointer shark and prefer the risk of getting speared by my board than being eaten, while body dragging 50 metres upwind to get to my board. If you have to use a leash, the reel type is less likely to spring back at you than a surfboard type. Be warned, all leashes are dangerous in this sport, and if you decide to use one, please weigh up all of the pros and cons. One guy at my local spot uses a very short surf style leash that is about 1.3 metres long. When you come off your board, you are far enough from the board not to land on it, but it is not long enough to be able to spring back at you. He has been using it for over 4 years without a problem and he does lot's of big jumps. He also wears a helmet.Also, I have a weak link in the braid material that is used as the leash, and this will break with approx 50-80 kgs of force. I have snapped this several times after completely stuffing up a jump and becoming separated from the board.
Genetrix said...

Hi Jake, what have you heard about the reel leash?





Genetrix
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236 posts
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10 Aug 2012 9:36pm
jakeyoung said...

I have heard that if you board stick in the water and theses a lot of tension on the board and the kite is pulling you and when the board pops up out the water it comes at you people have been knocked out and much worse.
Genetrix said...

Hi Jake, what have you heard about the reel leash?





I have never used one before but I know people who do and they love it for that extra safety from the sharks and ease of being able to clip and unclip from the board . Pop into Onboard I think they sell them , check one out and see if its suitable for what you need it to do.
cheers Tim
KiterBen
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10 Aug 2012 10:11pm
Jake

Unfortunately sharks could be anywhere, the best bet is to try and forget about them as much as you can and try to enjoy the sport. If you come off your board and cant get your kite up it can be a little scary.

Try to stay calm and think of how to get your kite up and board back as quickly as you can. The worst thing you can do is panic that is when accidents are most likely to happen.

Try not to go out to far or take a few trips to somewhere that is shallow to get more confident on the board.

Ben
jakeyoung
jakeyoung
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10 Aug 2012 10:35pm
Thanks for your help. do u know if anyone has a shark shield for kiteboarding would it work
KiterBen said...

Jake

Unfortunately sharks could be anywhere, the best bet is to try and forget about them as much as you can and try to enjoy the sport. If you come off your board and cant get your kite up it can be a little scary.

Try to stay calm and think of how to get your kite up and board back as quickly as you can. The worst thing you can do is panic that is when accidents are most likely to happen.

Try not to go out to far or take a few trips to somewhere that is shallow to get more confident on the board.

Ben



KiterBen
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10 Aug 2012 10:47pm
This is my opinion

( If a shark big enough wants to eat you a shark shield would be a useful as tits on a bull )

Anyway im sure no one likes even hearing the work shark on a water sports forum.

I sure dont.

Cheers

Ben
jakeyoung
jakeyoung
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10 Aug 2012 11:00pm
yea but is better then nothing
KiterBen said...

This is my opinion

( If a shark big enough wants to eat you a shark shield would be a useful as tits on a bull )

Anyway im sure no one likes even hearing the work shark on a water sports forum.

I sure dont.

Cheers

Ben


action_ms69
action_ms69
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242 posts
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11 Aug 2012 1:34pm
coastflyer said...

Rooboy, I'll bite mate, no pun intended! It happened two summers ago off Seacliff very close to the wave recorder, more or less directly in front of the Seacliff Hotel. The wave recorder is about 600 metres off shore. I had come off my board, and was body dragging upwind to my board, when I saw a fin about 10 metre away just very slowly cruising by. At first I thought it was a dolphin, but they normally don't stay on the surface. I continued to my board, which fortunately was not too far away, trying not to splash or disturb the water too much. As i was getting my feet into the straps, it swam right next to me and I could see that it was at least a 3-4 metre shark!! I kited straight back into the beach, and I felt like I was in a mild form of shock. This was as close as I have come to possibly dieing, and for me to continue doing this sport that I love, I had to come up with a solution where I had my board close to me as much as possible. Ironically enough while watching the evening news that night, some fishermen in a small tinny off Glenelg were circled by a 4 metre white shark, and one of them showed his mobile phone video to prove it!
This fatal shark attack occurred on Yorke Peninsula, apparently while he was positioning his board for a water start.
The Go Joe is another option and works extremely well.


http://www.oceanrodeo.com/kiting/go_joe

www.listphile.com/World_Shark_Attack_Database/Fatal_Shark_Attack_Donoghue






Rooboy said...

Sorry lads off topic but i want to hear more about Coastflyers encounter with the big bitie thing. Ive been kiting 8 or 9 years and never seen a shark. Where was this and how close was the encounter?





Hey guys. Just a quick Marine lesson for you all. The wave recorder was in fact 1 N.Mile offshore, at Marino Rock point. It was removed over 15 plus years. The post that sticks up about 600meters of the beach, in front of the Seacliff Pub. Is in fact a western carninal marker. This marks the west site of a very shollow reef called patties Reef, at summers very low tide it can be about 500mm deep. This is why in stormys there is normaly a great and much larger wave. There is another one south of the caravan park, marking the sand catch break water.

As for sharks, the shark watch chopper havnt seen any sharks inside the reef line, christies reef, marino rocks point to glenelg tyre reef, for a long while..

southwester
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15 Aug 2012 4:38pm
I have been using a leash for a few years now and havn't had any close calls with landing on the board. I have had a few bad take offs and landings but if the board is caught under water and you get launched the real will snap on the static chord section. The only issues are, you must always check it is free and not caught on your harness and when you do come off, the board will be floating behind you and if a wave comes through you can get hit by the board when the wave catches it.
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