Brighton kiteboarder in trouble late yesterday

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G Kailua
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28 Jul 2013 8:38am
As I packed up yesterday afternoon at Brighton after the wind dropped right off I noticed a guy setting up his 12M cab and twin tip. His kite took a while to self launch due to the light wind and off he headed struggling to get real traction in the light northerly. He kited about 3 km out into the bay and I thought this guy will struggle to get anywhere near the beach coming back so I had better wait around. No one else was around.

Next his kite was down and he was 2km off shore. After 15 mins we knew he w in trouble and it was late afternoon so the police and coastguard were alerted.

A police boat from Williamstown arrived but he had already been in the water for at least 45mins. Not sure how he is. I hope he is OK.

Rule 1 DO NOT KITE ALONE
Rule 2 DO NOT GO OUT FURTHER THAN YOU ARE PREPARED TO SWIM BACK

tarzan
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28 Jul 2013 9:11am
Good on you for hanging around. Agree.
suniboy21
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28 Jul 2013 9:18am
You could have saved a brothers life yesterday. Good on you!
G Kailua
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28 Jul 2013 9:36am
Big thanks to the guy with me who actually rang the police and caught up with the Police.
7tim
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28 Jul 2013 6:31pm
theres a story of a kitesurfer being rescued on channel ten news tonight. not sure if its the same one...
tarzan
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28 Jul 2013 6:36pm
And here it is
www.theaustralian.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes
G Kailua
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28 Jul 2013 6:48pm
Yes...Same one.
The guy involved is OK. Apparently he ditched the kite 2.5Km off-shore after it went down and attempted to swim in. Coast Guard I think picked him up 400m off shore. ALL OK. Police boat picked up the gear.
suniboy21
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28 Jul 2013 6:52pm
I hope the police boat chopped his kite up into small pieces with the propeller.
Then snapped his board in halve and kicked his ass off the boat!
Seriously? 2.5 Km of shore in a cross offshore? On dusk!
If your reading this your a tool! A dumb tool at best!
You best be making a sizable donation to police rescue....
2+ police boats
1+ air wing!
And a crate of beer for your new mate who called the police!
TOOL!
theWILFRED
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28 Jul 2013 8:46pm
Looks like the said kiter made channel 9 news.
WeirdEd
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28 Jul 2013 9:24pm
I am really glad everything went ok. The crew in Brighton is awesome, looking out for others. When I got in trouble due to a bad tangle and a deathlooping kite, people watched my self rescue and waited for me to reach land.

Regarding the recent event: I would never abandon the kite and try to swim a distance like that! The kite massively increases your chance to be spotted by air or sea rescue and it is your lifeboat. If you get cramps while you swim back, you will drown.
When I go out in offshore winds I always carry a mobile phone in a waterproof pouch and I have the water police on speed dial.
seb2
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28 Jul 2013 9:28pm
Glad he is ok.

If you're reading this, you could have used your kite rolled up as a buoyancy aid and paddled to shore, very little wind resistance and reduces risk of drowning due to exhaustion. Ask any kite school for a refresher, cost you $90 for an hour lesson.

Peterc150
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28 Jul 2013 9:33pm
Good on you for calling this in, and good to hear it ended well.

Heraldsun too: www.heraldsun.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes

It seems rather late in the day for such an exploit.

Also note the Water Police are requesting they be notified of any abandoned gear to prevent unnecessary searches.

ausmick
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28 Jul 2013 10:37pm
Some pretty harsh words by suniboy. True you shouldn't go out further than you could swim. Strongly Disagree with chopping up kite and kicking his ass of the boat! Unfortunate what has happened. But shows why education is paramount to kitting. I've only been kitting for 6 months. But have had 5hrs of lessons plus awesome advise and help from fellow kiters. Thank goodness fellow kiters are looking out for each other. Especially with the growth of the sport. More help from experienced kiters is vital. Hope he doesn't stop kiting. Cheers
JamesC99
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28 Jul 2013 8:47pm
Thanks to the guys that rang this in. I am very grateful. Thanks too for the messages from people who have made suggestions etc. I'm not into social media forums etc but have signed up here just so I can say thanks to the people that helped. Very embarrassing incident. There have been lots of incorrect facts reported so I do want to set the record straight. It was late when I set out (4 pm) but a reasonable wind still. Knowing northerlies are flaky I used my 12 metre and headed as hard up wind and a fair way out to try to get more solid wind and get further upwind still. At the farthest point out the wind died totally and kite went to water. Tried re-launching numerous times to no avail. Was probably 2.5 kms out so wrapped my lines, shoved the bar in my footstraps, clipped the board to my safety leash and went to secure the kite for the swim back. In zero wind I let go of the kite to check my lines and Murphy's law struck - a small gust took the kite and it was headed away. I had no intention of abandoning it but to swim after it away from shore at that time would have been stupid so I resigned myself to a long swim back and a purchase of a new kite. Swam slowly in a thick wetsuit and dragging my board and bar probably a bit over 2 kms when I was mortified to see choppers searching for me. Then the coast guard and water police came and asked me to get in. I apologised and said I was more than prepared to swim back as I never go past a point when I can't swim. They insisted I get in which I did. Police were great. I dropped in again today to say thanks and drop a case of beer to them. They asked if I could spread the word to label all kites with your name, licence number and mobile phone so if any of your gear gets found they can quickly contact you to check if you are ok and call off a search. This is the other reason I signed up to post this as it's something good that can come out of it. Out of thanks to the police please do this with your kites and boards etc (I only ever labelled my board)... Thanks again to the good vibes from most in a very embarrassing incident. To the not so good vibes from suniboy21... I've kited for 7 years and not had a single incident requiring anyone's help until this. Yes - it was a mistake to go out at that time in the northerly. A few facts for you: I always check the forecast and take what I think are reasonable risks. I never go anywhere near as far as I know I can swim. I always tell someone I am going and where. In the 7 years I've kited I have rescued a number of people who got themselves in trouble but didn't make them feel worse by judging them for a mistake or if they were a beginner. I never expected to be rescued and lost grip of my kite so never wanted to abandon it. I was in no danger and am sorry to have wasted people's time and am thankful to the guys who rang in as they would not have known if I was in big trouble or not. Guess you've not made a mistake in life Suniboy? But if you would like to come out from behind your online cave you can email through seabreeze and I will gladly meet you in person to sort this out as you seem quite worked up by it. Thanks to everyone else and see you out on the water doing the sport we all love! Sorry to all who spent their time on my mistake!
Gippy13
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28 Jul 2013 10:51pm
Glad the result was positive in the end- something for everyone to take away when accidents happen
Kazan
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28 Jul 2013 11:29pm
This should be made into a movie. An amazing story, and even with a good and bad guy twist. I won't mention who is the 'bad guy'.
Big eeeZeee
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28 Jul 2013 11:39pm
after 7 years experience I still don't understand why you would kite 2.5kms out into the bay solo on a ****ty northerly. I've been kiting about that long and i'd kite about 1-200m out before deciding whether the session was worthwhile... Glad you're ok mate but that was a bit of a brain fade. Plenty to be learnt by this
Gorgo
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28 Jul 2013 11:41pm
suniboy21 said..

....You best be making a sizable donation to police rescue....
2+ police boats
1+ air wing!
...


You left out the three divy vans. From what I saw it was one police boat and one coast guard boat. It was a cop on the hill who spotted James swimming in and guided the boats and chopper to him.

There were quite a few people on the beach watching James and getting concerned. Most of us probably dithered a bit too much and wondered what was the best way to help. Fortunately one person called 000 and got things happening.

It's important to not be shy or embarrassed to call 000 and report a kiter in trouble. The search and rescue guys like nothing better than an easy and successful rescue. They hate a hard rescue or pointless search, and they take it personally when they have to recover dead bodies.

The process is you call 000, they send police to check out the scene and verify the situation. They call in whatever other resources are needed. They much prefer to do it in daylight.

In cost terms it's kind of neutral. The helicopters are usually out flying around and the water guys are doing their thing. That's what their job is and what they're trained for. They get pissed off when amateurs try to do rescues and stuff it up. They're not sitting around playing Xbox and hoping that they don't have to crank up the chopper.

PS. Accidents and incidents usually happen when a series of mistakes happen and build on each other. It's usually, Oops. Oops! Oops!! Oh ****!!! Fortunately James obeyed the fundamental rule of not going further out than he was prepared to swim in, and had a decent wetsuit for the conditions.
ausmick
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29 Jul 2013 12:15am
Watching the wind charts yesterday you wouldn't think it would have dropped off. But it did.
Bit of a tough one. Good to know all are concerned of the sports reputation.
seb2
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29 Jul 2013 10:02am
i think its funny some people act like he should be OVER thanking the police, after all, it is their job, they get paid to do it.

No one carries on when i do my job :)
castill0jf
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29 Jul 2013 1:58pm
What is the water police phone number?

thanks in advance

WeirdEd
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29 Jul 2013 2:12pm
000 or call these guys:

Water Police Squad and Rescue Coordination Centre
100 Nelson Place
Williamstown, VIC, 3016
Phone (03) 9399 7500 (24 hours)
SaltySinus
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29 Jul 2013 6:40pm
dejavugraham said..

Big thanks to the guy with me who actually rang the police and caught up with the Police.


That was me!

Glad you made it back in one piece James. I started to worry as it appeared the dot on the horizon turned from the shape of someone lying on an inflatable kite to one of an unmanned kite heading to the shipping channel. But in the levels of light, the distance, etc. I wasn't 100% sure at that point what I was seeing.

There was one 'standard' police car (manned by two officers, Steve and another guy, who rewed forgetting his jumper), one Marine unit, one helicopter and later, a commander in chief.

In addition to the above advice I'd just flag that *if* one ever loses their kite (as in, full release) please please please ensure you contact the local authorities. Whilst it doesn't apply here and the kiter was still in the water long after the police were called, if I'd been in the same situation, I'd most likely have been too cold and shook up to give it a second thought.

The boys in blue did an outstanding job.

Thanks to the moral support of the three kiters (two on a race board that had seen action that day) and the disappointed kiter packing up when I (mr. blue pants) turned up.

Let's use it as a lesson learned all round.
Hendo84
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29 Jul 2013 7:17pm
Stupid f*#king comment Seabreezeb. That like saying don't thank the diggers when they come back from the sandpit. Those coppers perform a lifesaving job and I'll readily thank them if they helped me out.
What life-saving job do you do mate?
spw2000
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1 Aug 2013 7:10pm
I think attacking or harshly criticizing is a bit over the top unless you were there and had warned the kiter against his actions. More importantly this shows that even experience dos not prevent incidents -the key is knowing what to do to avoid them, and if they do, how to handle the situation in the safest manner.

My only question to James is why he let go of the kite without first grabbing one of the lines. Is that counted as an "oops"???
:)
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2 Aug 2013 1:53pm
JamesC99 said..

Thanks to the guys that rang this in. I am very grateful. Thanks too for the messages from people who have made suggestions etc. I'm not into social media forums etc but have signed up here just so I can say thanks to the people that helped. Very embarrassing incident. There have been lots of incorrect facts reported so I do want to set the record straight. It was late when I set out (4 pm) but a reasonable wind still. Knowing northerlies are flaky I used my 12 metre and headed as hard up wind and a fair way out to try to get more solid wind and get further upwind still. At the farthest point out the wind died totally and kite went to water. Tried re-launching numerous times to no avail. Was probably 2.5 kms out so wrapped my lines, shoved the bar in my footstraps, clipped the board to my safety leash and went to secure the kite for the swim back. In zero wind I let go of the kite to check my lines and Murphy's law struck - a small gust took the kite and it was headed away. I had no intention of abandoning it but to swim after it away from shore at that time would have been stupid so I resigned myself to a long swim back and a purchase of a new kite. Swam slowly in a thick wetsuit and dragging my board and bar probably a bit over 2 kms when I was mortified to see choppers searching for me. Then the coast guard and water police came and asked me to get in. I apologised and said I was more than prepared to swim back as I never go past a point when I can't swim. They insisted I get in which I did. Police were great. I dropped in again today to say thanks and drop a case of beer to them. They asked if I could spread the word to label all kites with your name, licence number and mobile phone so if any of your gear gets found they can quickly contact you to check if you are ok and call off a search. This is the other reason I signed up to post this as it's something good that can come out of it. Out of thanks to the police please do this with your kites and boards etc (I only ever labelled my board)... Thanks again to the good vibes from most in a very embarrassing incident. To the not so good vibes from suniboy21... I've kited for 7 years and not had a single incident requiring anyone's help until this. Yes - it was a mistake to go out at that time in the northerly. A few facts for you: I always check the forecast and take what I think are reasonable risks. I never go anywhere near as far as I know I can swim. I always tell someone I am going and where. In the 7 years I've kited I have rescued a number of people who got themselves in trouble but didn't make them feel worse by judging them for a mistake or if they were a beginner. I never expected to be rescued and lost grip of my kite so never wanted to abandon it. I was in no danger and am sorry to have wasted people's time and am thankful to the guys who rang in as they would not have known if I was in big trouble or not. Guess you've not made a mistake in life Suniboy? But if you would like to come out from behind your online cave you can email through seabreeze and I will gladly meet you in person to sort this out as you seem quite worked up by it. Thanks to everyone else and see you out on the water doing the sport we all love! Sorry to all who spent their time on my mistake!


Glad you made it back in one piece mate. Sounds like a very unlucky incident losing your kite, at the same time this is what safety systems are made for and one should be attached at all times, even with a self rescue like this. I'm sure you're over people explaining this now so I'll shutup, if you ever want to talk through what should have been done differently to avoid this possibility you can get me on PM or [email protected]

Kite Republic will be running a FREE 'Safety First - Self Rescue Clinic' next weekend (August 10th, 11am to 1pm) at the Kite Republic School at St Kilda West Beach.

This will be a great opportunity for anyone to bring their kites along and check the safety systems, understand how to do a self rescue and full packdown correctly, and help the community increase safety standards further.

James... if you are interested it would be great to have you along to explain some of the things that are easy to forget or what you've learnt from your incident. Totally understand if not but the offer is there.

Glad you're ok.
KiteboardingVic
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8 Aug 2013 4:30pm
Hey Chris - great idea - I recommend this to everyone..
spw2000
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10 Aug 2013 5:35pm
Hey Chris - great session - very well done and i am sure we all picked up some very useful tips. Will help me getting psyched up and ready to return to the water.
:)
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10 Aug 2013 8:13pm
Thanks Steffan. Here's a little wrap from the morning guys.

KR 'SAFETY FIRST' - Self Rescue & Safety Check Clinic
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<div>KR SAFETY FIRST - Self Rescue & Safety Check Clinic(35 photos)

Thankyou to everyone that made it along this morning and consolidated and tidied up their knowledge on safety systems, self rescue procedures, and which situations to use these in with KITE REPUBLIC owner and IKO International Kiteboarding Organization Examiner Chris Sal.

It's great to see so many kiters of varying experience levels getting out there and improving their knowledge on safety.

Thankyou to Craig Brandie, Michael Dunphy, Thomas Branse and the rest of the crew for coming along and helping out.

If you have any questions or need clarification on anything in regards to safety, please email [email protected] and he will be happy to answer any of your questions

Looking forward to the next KR SAFETY FIRST Clinic that will be in early October.

See you in the water soon!



finn12
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26 Aug 2013 1:10pm
I've searched before and not sure I found a good solution. I've labelled my board but what is the best way to label a kite?
Peterc150
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27 Aug 2013 12:49pm
You can use a texta and write your name and mobile number near the manufacturer's serial number label and/or near the centre strut.
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