ScottyG said...

Right off way in the waves
If you planning on a wave , It your wave .
Up wind tacking or gybing on to some one sailing Planing Is a DROP IN
DON'T **** the system Please

Sail out , find your wave and enjoy
Cheers

sounds like someone needs a hug

I was kiting today and had a few controversial drop ins at a undisclosed sailing spot.
There was one wave sailer just waiving his hands around at all us kiters .
I think he looked Gay , maybe we should approach him for a good time !!

So dill mar
Us gay wave sailers who don't need to bring our girls to the beach to take photos of us dropping in, dont go 2kms out to sea to find a wave to have a kiter who is scared of deep water gybe up wind and then say its there wave ( first on the wave out to sea has right of way) .When two sailors are heading out to sea and gybe at the same time on to the same wave ,sailor up wind has right of way. Possibly some wave etiquette is required on everyone's behalf as we are all there to have a good time but these rules have been in existence ,before your tea bag was evan invented and after thirty years of wavesailing all over the world and coast to coast in Oz and competing in Oz titles for more years than I can remember I'm sure I know what the sailing rules are as we have had to deal with yachting Oz and the Oz surf riders association .So maybe read the rules or go to beaches in NSW QLD WA and read the rules board at most breaks and remember respect earns respect dropping in just causes Argo and as I said before we are all out there to have fun because after 20 seconds that wave has hit the beach and gone but the angst last for hours (ie this reply)

sounds like someone is jealous of a bit of evolution.

To everyone who followed the rules, lined up and took turns - good work.
The other 80% of guys kooking it, what the hell was that??

Firstly, there were a number of guys who had no right to be out there, floundering around in the shorebreak for ages ie. Blue north, helmet and sunnies... Dude on the BWS losing his board in the middle of the break, floating around right where people need to bottom turn. It isn't a beginner spot, stick to the bay or go for a cruise at Point danger to get your skills up first.

Do not shoulder hop and then pinch back up to the peak when someone is already on the wave. Get upwind, pick up a bomb, set up behind the peak and proceed to tear it up. Learn how the lineup works... Also, what is with guys sitting on the inside expecting the windsurfers to fall off the wave they've picked up from out back. They won't. It's their wave, go get your own.

I could elaborate more on the evoloution of kiting but ive got better things to do.

Snaking waves is not on. People on a surf break on all water craft/sports should follow good etiquette. Summary: kitesurfing-handbook.peterskiteboarding.com/safety/right-of-way-rules

With the power and rage of a kite or windsurfer there is absolutely no need to drop in or snake a wave.

Lets avoid the agro that happens at crowded surfing spots!

Al McLeod said...
To everyone who followed the rules, lined up and took turns - good work.
The other 80% of guys kooking it, what the hell was that??

Firstly, there were a number of guys who had no right to be out there, floundering around in the shorebreak for ages ie. Blue north, helmet and sunnies... Dude on the BWS losing his board in the middle of the break, floating around right where people need to bottom turn. It isn't a beginner spot, stick to the bay or go for a cruise at Point danger to get your skills up first.

Do not shoulder hop and then pinch back up to the peak when someone is already on the wave. Get upwind, pick up a bomb, set up behind the peak and proceed to tear it up. Learn how the lineup works... Also, what is with guys sitting on the inside expecting the windsurfers to fall off the wave they've picked up from out back. They won't. It's their wave, go get your own.

Al, everyone had the right to be out there. If you don't go out, how are you expected to get the skills? Everyone had a swim in the break chasing their gear back to the shore; even people at a 'pro' level.

I think you guys all stress too much; even with a few 'snaked' waves; everyone looked like they were having fun

The problem (if any) should have been sorted out on the beach.
That would be a normal way of educating newbies in regards to what is not cool behavior.
Posting sooky messages on seabreeze is pretty lame.
Why do windsurfers commonly huddle in packs alike on the beach while avoiding eye contact, conversation, and any gestures toward kite surfers?

Righto. Just asking because in surfing the general rule is that the person on the wave has absolute right of way. If someone is paddling out, they have to take all steps to avoid the person on the wave and also the unbroken face in front of said surfer. If this means they have to paddle towards the massive wall of whitewater and get clobbered, so be it.

zarb said...
Quick question on outgoing kiters versus kiters on a wave.

In the link you quote from the Kitesurfing handbook, it states that the rider on a wave has right of way unless in the case of an outgoing kiter, in which case the outgoing rider has right of way? Is this right?

Interesting topic :)

When the rules were changed on Maui at Kanaha, and the Uppers break was opened up for kiters, the addition of kiters (and who had right of way) caused a bit of confusion!!! (and agro).. however the good kiters/windsurfers had no problem sharing waves and staying out of the way of eachother....

Al is correct some places beginners should avoid... the place being discussed is a good example..... It doesn't matter if you flounder on your own but when you affect others in the water it's not cool!

I had an experience at Uppers where a beginner wavesailor dropped in on me and caused me to wipe out and I watched my gear wash away... about 100 metres ... (the beginner had no right to be there was floundering and only causing problems for others.... ) it was a Big, long swim ahead against the current!!!! Luckily a kiter saw what happened, came to me, told me to grab on to his harness and gave me a ride to my gear ... pretty awesome I thought....

Know the rules, share the waves and have fun!

I bet both Kiting and Windsurfing are pretty gay sports to the Jet Skiers!