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Stella101
Stella101
WA
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24 Jan 2014 7:53am
I please need some help, I did the lessons and know what to do but I struggle to get on the board and going........ I really want to kitesurf this weekend without struggling, I would like some tips please
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
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1397 posts
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24 Jan 2014 8:24am
If you are still struggling, its probably worth taking some more lessons. Although the money might hurt, its worth it in the long run as it will build your skills and confidence.

Good luck and keep trying, you will get there if you stick at it!

Cheers
Stella101
Stella101
WA
5 posts
WA, 5 posts
24 Jan 2014 8:30am
Dave Whettingsteel said..

If you are still struggling, its probably worth taking some more lessons. Although the money might hurt, its worth it in the long run as it will build your skills and confidence.

Good luck and keep trying, you will get there if you stick at it!

Cheers


Thanks Dave, does the size of the board make a big difference?
Kraut
Kraut
WA
547 posts
WA, 547 posts
24 Jan 2014 11:49am
Hard to tell based on what you wrote. You need to assess whether your skill level is up to speed or you need more lessons. If you feel it ismore about picking the right kite size and board size you need to play with it a bit. Bigger board will get you up and riding faster but you might struggle edging properly ending up shooting downwind if it is too big/wide to control. Smaller kite will be safer but will need to be moved (sinused) more actively to get you going. Best is to check what other riders are using in that very moment depending on their weight, skill level and board size
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
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1397 posts
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24 Jan 2014 12:56pm
Stella101 said..

Dave Whettingsteel said..

If you are still struggling, its probably worth taking some more lessons. Although the money might hurt, its worth it in the long run as it will build your skills and confidence.

Good luck and keep trying, you will get there if you stick at it!

Cheers


Thanks Dave, does the size of the board make a big difference?


When you are at the early learning stages I don't think the board is a big factor, unless you have something rediculously huge or tiny for your body weight. It's really all about learning how to fly the kite, controlling and utilizing its power to get you up and running. As Russ says, check what kite size people of a similar size to you are using as a rough guide as to whether your kite is about right. Learning to assess the wind can be tricky when you are new as well if you don't have a sailing or windsurfing background for example.

If you are learning at Melville, the wind can be lighter close in as well which makes it harder to get up and going. Hope that helps, but persistence is the key. It can be quite daunting at the start, but you soon get past that phase and wonder what all the fuss was about!
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
WA
1397 posts
WA, 1397 posts
24 Jan 2014 1:05pm
And when you have some free time, have a read through the newbies - lessons learnt so far thread in the newbies section. It's a gold mine of tips as SaltySinus made the journey from beginner to competent,
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
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24 Jan 2014 10:02pm
When beginning you'll find yourself either going over the top of the board or the board skidding out from under you, stalling is also a common problem as your a tad underpowered , forget board size and break your water start down into 3 stages, doing this keeps you on your board and kite in the sky instead of flailing around trying to relaunch your kite and retrieve your board,
Wade into the water and set yourself and board with kite at 12, just practice small runs of just a couple of meters, returning the kite to 12 and sheeting out will bring you back down into the water and back to you original position , do this outgoing and incoming but remember to give yourself room when incoming it gives you a feeling of what powers required and let's you practice your water starts , your kite needn't go past 10 o'clock or 2 o'clock during this process, this is IMO where quick progression to getting up on the board is made,, when someone's at this stage I'm confident they'll be doing some decent runs after the next stage when teaching them, keep us posted
the gibbo
the gibbo
WA
776 posts
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24 Jan 2014 10:09pm
hook up with seebreezers(kinross way), 5 mins with someone watching what u r doing at this stage they should be able to help, dont worry it will happen and quickly, good luck.
john8oy76
john8oy76
25 posts
25 posts
25 Jan 2014 3:44pm
go on youtube and theres plenty of lessons there. Theres a series called "progression" thats very good that i found benificial. I am at the stage where i can get up on the board and go for a while but i can't edge yet. Can't wait until i can edge. Its all very exciting. I've been learning/practicing for what seems like forever.
Good luck with it.
eezeegowin
eezeegowin
WA
175 posts
WA, 175 posts
25 Jan 2014 7:48pm
Lots of good advice above. I'll be honest that it took me ages to get the "hang" of waterstarts and the best advice I could give to another struggler is look for little improvements rather than getting frustrated because it hasn't clicked.
My routine (should it help)
1: Set kite and 12 and relax.
2: Drop kite (a little at first until I get the feel of the wind).
3: Point front foot at lines as I feel the kite pulling me up.
4: let the bar out a little to get the kite to rise to about 1030.
5: Lean back and point front foot more upwind to give the lines some tension.

A bloke on the beach told me that waterstarts are more of a "feel" than knowledge. It was crap advice at the time but I get it now. Hang in there mate, Its all worth it.
Calvin6m
Calvin6m
WA
77 posts
WA, 77 posts
25 Jan 2014 9:58pm
When your in the water about to get up make sure your in the correct stance already as you would when riding, so back leg bent and also make sure board pointing in a diagonal direction with legs strong.
Stella101
Stella101
WA
5 posts
WA, 5 posts
22 Feb 2014 9:27am
Thanks for all the info, got a bigger board and the first time I used it, I was up and riding. Just gotta practice practice practice now to getting better
BlackPanth3r
BlackPanth3r
WA
21 posts
WA, 21 posts
22 Feb 2014 9:41am
I remember the key to my starts were diving the kite hard, aim down wind a lil, and as long as I kept my front leg straight and back leg bent a little she was all a goer... but in the end it was a couple friends who did give slight pointers to get me up and going. Always best to get another kiter to critique your stance and tecnique then you will progress quick...
CowboyWA
CowboyWA
WA
55 posts
WA, 55 posts
22 Feb 2014 8:17pm
My advice to beginners is dive the kite while pointing your board downwindish so you pick up some speed, then turn your board perpendicular to the wind once your are going. Trying to take off in same direction as experienced people leads to a stall.

Always make sure that once you dive your kite you turn it back into the wind otherwise you may stall.

It's about getting all together at the same time. It takes practice and patience.

Good luck mate. Once you up then concentrate on the correct body position to use the power of your kite to let you edge upwind.
geordieboy
geordieboy
WA
224 posts
WA, 224 posts
22 Mar 2014 8:47am
I don't have a problem getting up any more it's just I can't seem to get the kite in the correct position to progress forward
I dive the kite get up and head down wind but I'm not quick enough to position kite and sink again,,, but I won't be beat I will keep trying till it comes natural
eezeegowin
eezeegowin
WA
175 posts
WA, 175 posts
24 Mar 2014 9:07pm
geordieboy said..

I don't have a problem getting up any more it's just I can't seem to get the kite in the correct position to progress forward
I dive the kite get up and head down wind but I'm not quick enough to position kite and sink again,,, but I won't be beat I will keep trying till it comes natural


I've had that problem too. I found that I was not diving the kite far enough into the window. If i did I'd faceplant. I found that making sure I had my front foot pointed directly at the kite as it dove down stopped this. I could be as aggressive in my power stroke as I liked and then have enough power to turn cross wind and up wind. I'm a big fella and this has helped me.
Make sure you let the kite out at the bottom of the dive, coz crashing it into the drink is embarrassing
geordieboy
geordieboy
WA
224 posts
WA, 224 posts
27 Mar 2014 8:42am
eezeegowin said..

geordieboy said..

I don't have a problem getting up any more it's just I can't seem to get the kite in the correct position to progress forward
I dive the kite get up and head down wind but I'm not quick enough to position kite and sink again,,, but I won't be beat I will keep trying till it comes natural


I've had that problem too. I found that I was not diving the kite far enough into the window. If i did I'd faceplant. I found that making sure I had my front foot pointed directly at the kite as it dove down stopped this. I could be as aggressive in my power stroke as I liked and then have enough power to turn cross wind and up wind. I'm a big fella and this has helped me.
Make sure you let the kite out at the bottom of the dive, coz crashing it into the drink is embarrassing


Thank for that I'm prepared to try what it takes looks like we may be able to get out this arvo so I will try that
Kraut
Kraut
WA
547 posts
WA, 547 posts
28 Mar 2014 9:35am
Good advise regarding the downwind pointing. Most beginners don't point enough downwind (extend the front leg but also orientate the hips correctly) as they seem to be afraid of shooting downwind. Once up and picking up speed only then (before the kite stalls due to slacked lines ie you underriding it) you start edging harder so you go sideways, butnot too much into the wind otherwise you slow down and eventually stop. Keep the line tension and speed between these two extremes
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