Some questions before making a land yacht

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Darth Vader
Darth Vader
VIC
11 posts
VIC, 11 posts
18 Oct 2015 3:53pm
I've finally decided to build a land yacht. I've gathered so far that the plans I gave to you guys for some advice on were **** and the two sets of plans made on the forums by you guys were "tried in the real world and not made by some PC rat". I appreciate this advice. I am unsure what yacht to build from the the instructions the community has provided. (Am I correct in saying that there were two?) ((and I'm going to be using the yacht in a car park)).

Im also wondering why windsurfing sails are so expensive! (They are just a sheet with some poles am I right?). Would it be cheaper to make one and If yes, how?

Another thing I was wondering is the final cost of this project. (I know I was given an answer but I found it hard to interpret into a single figure...)

thanks all

Anton
sn
sn
WA
2775 posts
sn sn
WA, 2775 posts
18 Oct 2015 3:06pm
Gidday Anton,

Do you have access to a workshop and tools?
Can you weld - or tack a job together so someone better skilled can finish the job for you?
Basic woodworking skills? [can you drill a hole / cut somewhere near an intended line without leaking too much blood over the job?]
If so, you are doing better than many of us

As you are intending to sail in a car park, I would recommend the "LEFROY MINI" as it is smaller, and better suited to tight areas, as a bonus - it is also easier to transport and store.

Sails, masts and booms do not have to be expensive.
Over the last few years, I have collected loads [literally enough to overload a small truck]
The most I have paid is $15 for an item.
Many came from our local council recycling depot, some from roadside pick-up during the annual council bulk junk collection, a pile of mast sections were donated by a local surf shop - sail maker [remains of damaged gear left behind by customers.]
Even the big bin at one of our local beaches has supplied more than a few sets of gear [albeit a little damaged]

I have had great success with bunging up begging notices on this forum's windsurfing "free stuff" page.
Many windsurfing fanatics seem to have a compulsive "need" to have the latest gear, and often have a collection of so-called "obsolete stuff" that they are willing to either give away or sell for stuff all.
Sometimes, their wife, girlfriend or mum have happily given away the surplus gear "on their behalf" - without telling them

The chassis is all easily available steel tube - salvage yards, council depots, offcuts from local factories or fabricators [or even Bunnings]

Bodywork - recycled plywood packing cases, or ply from Bunnings.
There is a huge variety of bodywork types and styles you can try - simple plywood tray, complex curves, foam and fibreglass, aluminium sheet, IIRC, one of the crew even tried layers of corrugated cardboard with fibreglass and resin!

The most expensive items will most likely be wheels and pulley blocks.

Wheels - do not mess about with the junk at Bunnings or anywhere similar - they fall apart at the most inopportune times and usually in spectacular fashion

Go direct to FALLSHAW, and get their plastic wheelbarrow wheels.
These are light, practically indestructible and good for over 100kph!
Our local Fallshaw distributor gives a substantial discount - when we tell the owner that we are buying for a landyacht.
We ask for a package of 3 x wheels ready to roll - complete with 20mm I.D. high speed bearings and the adaptors needed to fit them to the wheels.

Pulley blocks - my first sets were freebees - salvaged from exercise machines that were being thrown out during an annual council junk collection!
"Proper" marine grade pulley blocks with larger diameter pulleys are better though - "RILEY" are locally made, and very good quality.

Sails - as you intend sailing on bitumen, you have an advantage.
Surfaces like beach sand or grassed ovals can give a lot of drag, while bitumen is much easier to get rolling on.
You can get away with a plain unmodified windsurfing sail - which makes it much easier for a beginner to learn with.

Only drawback with bitumen is it wears out tyres a bit quicker - but as the rear wheels are canted over and wear off centre, you can flip the wheels around every so often and double their life.

My recommendation - base your yacht on the Lefroy mini plans - maybe alter it for a bit more ground clearance [speed bumps in the car park?]
Start looking for any sails, masts and booms you can find locally - bung up a help notice in the windsurfing free stuff section and keep your eyes open.
Half the fun of these landyachts can be in finding the bits to make them!
Keep your bodywork simple to start with - check out Chook's earlier timber bodied landyachts for ideas.

Don't be scared of asking questions - or pointing out anything that is unclear in the various plans.
Paul [AKA "landyacht"] has asked for constructive criticism of the plans so he can update them.
We love these things - and don't mind spreading the love!

stephen

[certifiable scrounger]
lachlan3556
lachlan3556
VIC
1066 posts
VIC, 1066 posts
18 Oct 2015 6:53pm
Stephen has pretty much covered it. Where abouts in Vic are you based? Im in Bendigo and order Fallshaw wheels through Bendigo Bearings (SKF outlet), don't buy wheels from Bunnings/Home hardware/mitre 10/etc. I've also tested out Richmond wheels and I couldn't break them, therefore recommend that brand as well.

Build the steel bits (chassis) as per the plans and then a seat to suit (of your design/creation).
Chook2
Chook2
WA
1249 posts
WA, 1249 posts
18 Oct 2015 5:07pm
Awesome Anton!!!! You won't go wrong with the L.L.Mini.

Post pics of your progress and I'm sure everyone here will certainly help in any way we can, if you get stuck during construction.

As "sn" said, (great advise!!!!!) put a "wanted notice" for unused windsurfing sail and mast on the "Windsurfing Vic... forum" explaining what you want it for. By the time your chassis construction has progressed, something may have turned up.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Victoria/

I'm certain some kind soul will have some gear that will get you sailing, for maybe a beverage or two.


Good luck!!!
Hiko
Hiko
1229 posts
1229 posts
19 Oct 2015 12:06pm
Good advice above Anton and is an example of why this is a great forum for anyone contemplating building their own landyacht
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