ACROSS AUSTRALIA BY WIND ALONE

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Hornblower
Hornblower
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28 Jun 2015 4:33pm
Ahoy, land sailors. I'm a writer currently in the middle of a fiction novel about two middle aged men sailing a land yacht by road from Port Augusta to the Gulf of Carpentaria via Burketown in North Queensland. This is probably impossible in reality, but in the interests of making it real as possible, I'm asking the land yachting community for their thoughts on the matter. My fictional sailors have time on their side, so can wait for the right winds. Matters of practical interest are:

1. Would the police and other authorities let you do it, and what clearances/permits etc would be required? The vehicle in the book is roadworthy. with disk brakes, indicators, and of dimensions that meet legal requirements. I know a bicycle wouldn't need registration for the same trip, but any feedback here would be appreciated.

2. Road conditions: I've chosen National Route 83 as the most direct route because it's shorter, and less problematic than going via the Stuart Highway through Alice Springs because of the traffic problems of the busier highway. NR 83 goes through Leigh Creek, Maree, Birdsville, Boulia, Mt Isa, to Burketown. Any info on hills or other uphill stuff, road surfaces or difficulties/hazards will also help. Max Tunbridge, who sailed the Birdsville Track in September 2013, has offered some valuable perspectives, but the more the merrier.

Thank you all,

Hornblower.
beachball57
beachball57
SA
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28 Jun 2015 4:19pm
I know of some guys that sailed land yacht from marree to Birdsville, , just because they could,,, i doubt very much that youd get permission from the various road traffic authorities particularly queensland, they lack a sense of adventure thats for sure.
Hornblower
Hornblower
QLD
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28 Jun 2015 6:51pm
Thanks, BBalls. I suspect that's the case, but I'll bother some authorities so I have the ring of authenticity in the story. I also wonder if anyone has actually made this sort of land yacht trip on wind alone. Everyone I've read about who's tried it has had an auxiliary motor or pedal power or some other backup.
landyacht
landyacht
WA
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28 Jun 2015 5:48pm
it has been done by a swiss? or austrian, self equipped. you are sailing against the wind the whole way, the way to go is East to West. there are endless people who would not give you permission, but they will be sitting in offices whilst you actually do it. dont be shy with sail area in your "design as its more commonly light winds a motor doesnt cut it , but I would accept pedal power as an auxilliary.
Saltylips
Saltylips
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sn
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28 Jun 2015 7:59pm
landyacht said..
there are endless people who would not give you permission, but they will be sitting in offices whilst you actually do it.


Something you must make use of in your story - bureaucrats and their minions dogging your tracks, making life difficult.

We can all sympathise with that.

stephen
Saltylips
Saltylips
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Hornblower
Hornblower
QLD
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23 Jul 2015 11:44am
Many thanks for the wind refs, Saltylips—I've passed them onto Cap'n Willy.
Hornblower
Hornblower
QLD
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QLD, 10 posts
23 Jul 2015 11:52am
We've spoken to Max Tunbridge, Beachball, and he's been very helpful. We'd prefer to not have to deal with the departments, but considering the length of the trip, and over 1000km on National Route B83—and that's not taking into account the improbabilities built into this fool's errand anyway—it's better we stay on the right side of the authorities. The Transport Departments basically said WTF but I've sent a proposal and various negotiations are underway, so I live in hope. Bearing in mind that the land yacht in question has indicators, warning lights, disc brakes on four wheels, a host of other safety features, plus a support vehicle in front, and the other strategies we've offered to eliminate hazard to road users and us, there is a sniff of optimism. We'll keep you posted.
Hornblower
Hornblower
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23 Jul 2015 12:02pm
sn said..

landyacht said..
there are endless people who would not give you permission, but they will be sitting in offices whilst you actually do it.



Something you must make use of in your story - bureaucrats and their minions dogging your tracks, making life difficult.

We can all sympathise with that.

stephen


And gentlemen, regarding the Swiss adventurer Jean Philippe Platthey who set out from Bowen in northern Queensland in September 2003 in a pedal-assisted land yacht, heading for Geraldton on the coast of Western Australia—he travelled over 4000 kilometres in 51 days, although it was estimated that he pedalled most of the way; an admirable effort, but Cap'n Willy reckons he cheated. Even our mate Max had a little electric motor on the front wheel to keep him out of trouble. They were sensible men, but for us, this simply will not do. As part of the conditions of approval—and my wife has approved it so those departments had better fall into line—we've offered to pack up the yacht when we hit towns, put it on the support vehicle trailer, cart it through town and reassemble it on the other side, then proceed. There are some compromises , but not on the wind power only travel.
Saltylips
Saltylips
NSW
52 posts
NSW, 52 posts
23 Jul 2015 8:45pm
as a purist have you considered a set of oars or a paddle to get you through the towns
Test pilot 1
Test pilot 1
WA
1430 posts
WA, 1430 posts
23 Jul 2015 8:15pm
Have you thought of also using the trip as a fundraiser for a worthy charity? May help with swaying officials maybe?
wokelliott
wokelliott
WA
179 posts
WA, 179 posts
24 Jul 2015 4:00pm
Good idea TP1.

By the way, did you get your elec bike together? I have just assembled a brushless unit on a relatives mountain bike, goes like as rocket, much better than my brush type motor unit.
Test pilot 1
Test pilot 1
WA
1430 posts
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24 Jul 2015 11:49pm
Funds are tight at the moment. Brushless way better for speed/power. The other alternative is pancake(often called printed circuit) motor, uses brushes but because no iron in rotor no spark on brushes ergo no wearing of brushes. Coils are vertical as opposed to horizontal in ironed rotor and huge weight saving
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