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niaychi
niaychi
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97 posts
2 Nov 2011 12:58pm
The new association has been around a while,what is happening about all the new approach,do they have a new web site?most info on site very old news.
niaychi
niaychi
97 posts
97 posts
8 Nov 2011 4:52pm
niaychi said...

The new association has been around a while,what is happening about all the new approach,do they have a new web site?most info on site very old news.


It would appear that new ALSA is about as informative as old one,no change. Hope those that are members are happy with what they get for there money
blowhard
blowhard
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
8 Nov 2011 7:18pm
interesting , i thought that it was all under control
aus230
aus230
WA
1660 posts
WA, 1660 posts
8 Nov 2011 11:13pm
It would help a lot if we knew who you guys where. are you ALSA members.
blowhard
blowhard
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
9 Nov 2011 1:31pm
aus230 said...

It would help a lot if we knew who you guys where. are you ALSA members.

interesting ,question , are you a member ? if so which one as it is my understanding there are two! that would lead to the next question which one should one be a member off ?
I have just found this other registered body The Australian Landsailing Federation ?
who are they ? no information , so we have three so called organisations , Who does what ? And how do you contact them ? I'm confussed ! As none of them seem to do any thing.

niaychi
niaychi
97 posts
97 posts
9 Nov 2011 4:20pm
aus230 said...

It would help a lot if we knew who you guys where. are you ALSA members.

Answer no not a member,but just interested in all forms of sailing,didnt know you had to be a member to see what is happening,i can look at the british site ,nalsa ,fisly etc but cannot see any thing here in aussie so does such a association exist?

Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
2865 posts
SA, 2865 posts
9 Nov 2011 7:18pm
Have you guys used these contacts that have around for a while?...
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Land-Yacht-Sailing/General/ALSA-3/

It also should be noted that;
NALSA doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
FISLY doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
BFSLYC doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
Ice sailing associations don't communicate to its members via a forum.
The Blokart association doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
Yachting Australia doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
In fact very few clubs and associations use forums to have direct contact with the members.
So why would people to expect ALSA to do different?

I would have thought the various land sailing clubs in Australia haven't used seabreeze more to promote their local clubs and put up their sailing calendars, i'm sure there are many people watching this site that might turn up to a sailing day if they were to know its on.


ALYF
ALYF
1 posts
1 posts
9 Nov 2011 4:50pm
THE AUSTRALIAN LANSAILING FEDERATION

Yes it exists , it wast put together some time ago , this is a very brief update as to where it is at , and it will not be getting involved in bull from this forum , you are invitted to ask questions by a PM if you wish .

At present we are alttering the constitution so that what was allowed to happen with the other (ALSA) cant happen with out every member being involved . there will be NO club membership individuals only on a state by state bassis , it will up to the states to put forward their representives that they will vote for , that is where the management will be drawn from , to form a National Organisation .
There are many things being done in the back ground including the racing rules , in particular to the way an event is to be run .we are looking at a Tag Timming system that will be used (that will be able to be used by clubs , at a fee ).

We will make an anoucment when we are ready , that at this stage that will be early next year .
we will be putting up an event next year , that will also be anounced , when we are ready .

As there are now 4 states ( SA VIC NSW QLD )at this stage involved , we are looking forward to next year
ALYF (steering group)
We will not be getting involved in a SEABREEZE slanging match so stay calm
blowhard
blowhard
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
9 Nov 2011 5:04pm
Gizmo said...

Have you guys used these contacts that have around for a while?...
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Land-Yacht-Sailing/General/ALSA-3/

It also should be noted that;
NALSA doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
FISLY doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
BFSLYC doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
Ice sailing associations don't communicate to its members via a forum.
The Blokart association doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
Yachting Australia doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
In fact very few clubs and associations use forums to have direct contact with the members.
So why would people to expect ALSA to do different?

I would have thought the various land sailing clubs in Australia haven't used seabreeze more to promote their local clubs and put up their sailing calendars, i'm sure there are many people watching this site that might turn up to a sailing day if they were to know its on.





why would any one promote any thing . why dont you get a job or do some thing with your life we will live with out your rather obscure interferance . arnt you one of the problems with this sport here
niaychi
niaychi
97 posts
97 posts
9 Nov 2011 5:07pm
Gizmo said...just a point i have just revisited BFSLYC and there is some info there more than what is available here in aus

Have you guys used these contacts that have around for a while?...
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Land-Yacht-Sailing/General/ALSA-3/

It also should be noted that;
NALSA doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
FISLY doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
BFSLYC doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
Ice sailing associations don't communicate to its members via a forum.
The Blokart association doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
Yachting Australia doesn't communicate to its members via a forum.
In fact very few clubs and associations use forums to have direct contact with the members.
So why would people to expect ALSA to do different?

I would have thought the various land sailing clubs in Australia haven't used seabreeze more to promote their local clubs and put up their sailing calendars, i'm sure there are many people watching this site that might turn up to a sailing day if they were to know its on.





Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
2865 posts
SA, 2865 posts
9 Nov 2011 7:40pm
ALYF said...

THE AUSTRALIAN LANSAILING FEDERATION

Yes it exists , it wast put together some time ago , this is a very brief update as to where it is at , and it will not be getting involved in bull from this forum , you are invitted to ask questions by a PM if you wish .

At present we are alttering the constitution so that what was allowed to happen with the other (ALSA) cant happen with out every member being involved . there will be NO club membership individuals only on a state by state bassis , it will up to the states to put forward their representives that they will vote for , that is where the management will be drawn from , to form a National Organisation .
There are many things being done in the back ground including the racing rules , in particular to the way an event is to be run .we are looking at a Tag Timming system that will be used (that will be able to be used by clubs , at a fee ).

We will make an anoucment when we are ready , that at this stage that will be early next year .
we will be putting up an event next year , that will also be anounced , when we are ready .

As there are now 4 states ( SA VIC NSW QLD )at this stage involved , we are looking forward to next year
ALYF (steering group)
We will not be getting involved in a SEABREEZE slanging match so stay calm


What no WA involvement yet.... why?

So is it the...
THE AUSTRALIAN LANSAILING FEDERATION
or
Australian land yachting federation australia
or
ALYF

You have used ALL of those variations which one is it? Running an association is about crossing the t's dotting the i's and using spell check guys to get credibility. If you want to be the representative of a sport at least act in a professional manner!!!
Running an Association is like running a business first impressions count and you never get a second chance to make a Good first impression......

I don't think the forum needs to resort to personal slander thanks.... I am very gainfully employed, bring in export dollars into this country and pay more than my fair share of taxes for the record....




beachball57
beachball57
SA
540 posts
SA, 540 posts
9 Nov 2011 7:40pm
can't speak for the other states but here in SA there is only 1 club going at the moment, and i do say at the moment, and it is my impression that the club doesn't have a lot of members to put forward as a candidate to any national body it seems to me that some disgruntled people have just formed another national body for what seems a very small pool.. land sailing in this country isn't all that well know it seems to me so my question is whats the point of having so many national bodies for such a small group of people and if you happen to be a member of one can you be a member of the other ?? who are the people who are in this new national body,, whats the point of being so secretive ?? oh well i guess it keeps it interesting
hills
hills
SA
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9 Nov 2011 8:18pm

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sn
sn
WA
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sn sn
WA, 2775 posts
9 Nov 2011 6:40pm
Hillsy,

Feel free to delete this if you feel it is the right thing to do,

I have been trying to understand what all the fuss is about, and have cobbled together the following from what I have been able to pick up and some reading between the lines.

If I am wrong, ANYONE!!! please feel free to correct me!

The original ALSA fell in a heap a fair while ago, existing in name only, and was possibly not able to operate within its constitution anymore for some reason or other.
(lack of numbers for a legal quorum?)

In late 2010 or thereabouts, ALSA was properly and legally re-formed by a group of landyachters who want to see the sport/ hobby/ past time promoted and run in a more efficient manner.

After ALSA was reformed and up and running with its legally recognised and approved constitution, the original ALSA poobahs were upset about not having control over landyachting (not that they did anyway) and have now set up another association or federation in competition with the new, legally operating ALSA.

I get the impression that the poobahs from old ALSA had a disagreement with the W.A. clubs many years ago- therefore are reluctant to invite W.A. clubs into thier federation/ association or whatever they wish to call it.

Am I on the right track? or did I get it wrong somewhere?

Stephen.

Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
2865 posts
SA, 2865 posts
9 Nov 2011 9:17pm
You got it 110%
blowhard
blowhard
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
9 Nov 2011 6:53pm
Gizmo said...

You got it 110%


another rash statement by some one that dosnt know,
keep going you are a !
beachball57
beachball57
SA
540 posts
SA, 540 posts
9 Nov 2011 9:33pm
maybe it's world domination that is up for grabs here and not just the domination of land sailing
beachball57
beachball57
SA
540 posts
SA, 540 posts
9 Nov 2011 9:35pm
what is that stick with a dot under it called, oh yes and explication mark so thats what you are ,, bet you didn't know that until now
sn
sn
WA
2775 posts
sn sn
WA, 2775 posts
9 Nov 2011 7:14pm
Hi all,

I just re-read my post, sorry if some dont like the way I worded stuff!

I tend to have a thick skin, and forget that others might not be so blessed.

If anyone out there is offended by how I worded stuff- my apologies

All the best,

Stephen.
Test pilot 1
Test pilot 1
WA
1430 posts
WA, 1430 posts
9 Nov 2011 7:14pm
blowhard said...

Gizmo said...

You got it 110%


another rash statement by some one that dosnt know,
keep going you are a !


Blowhard, if SN and Gizmo are wrong and you know that for a fact, then please enlighten us all with the correct details.
Thanking you in advance.
blowhard
blowhard
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
9 Nov 2011 7:24pm
its comming as sure as the sun rises , it will keep

leave sn out of it
beachball57
beachball57
SA
540 posts
SA, 540 posts
9 Nov 2011 11:19pm
i guess everyone has the option of joining or not joining this new "group" of fellows and thier new association, after all voting with your feet is one of the strongest ways to show support or lack of it,, personally and i guess i leave myself open for personal attack here but i won't be joining any of it i think it's all to hard and is just a power play anyway and does very little if anything at all to further the sport/passtime/hobby of land sailing in this country, as i have said all along isn't it suppose to be fun
colk2004
colk2004
317 posts
317 posts
9 Nov 2011 9:19pm
When I was originally searching for stuff about Land Yachting it seemed to be that Land Yachting in Australia was 'represented' by the Sandgropers Land Yacht Club at Rockingham, WA. Certainly that is where BFSLYC points you - rightly or wrongly.

Cheers Col
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
10 Nov 2011 2:13am
blowhard said...
why would any one promote any thing . why dont you get a job or do some thing with your life we will live with out your rather obscure interferance . arnt you one of the problems with this sport here


Blowhard by name, blowhard by nature.

Your hitting "below the belt" as you have done in your post is a reflection of the level of your intelligence, ie barely above the gutter.

Your spelling and English expression has not improved since your last alter ego persona on the forum either.

So you have done the "aggressive and threatening phone calls" thing to various parties around the country.

Then you did the "letter threatening legal action" thing written using a deceased person's name from one state and posting the letter from another state (I still have the letter) and that could get you into serious legal problems.

So what is your next ploy in your megalomaniac intention to take over the world???

You may hide behind your annonymity, but do you think that really disguises who you are??

Give us credit for a basic level of intelligence which you seem to lack. Look at Hills post a couple up reminding us of the forum rules/guidelines, the main one being "Keep it FUN.".

If you are not here for FUN, go elsewhere.

Lock the thread anytime you like Hillsy.

It would be a shame to have to do that as most people contributing to the land sailing forum are a pretty civilised lot.

aus230
aus230
WA
1660 posts
WA, 1660 posts
10 Nov 2011 1:08am
Instead of getting into a heated discussion please follow the directions is the post that was put up some time ago. This is a nationally registered association

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Land-Yacht-Sailing/General/ALSA-3/

Cheers
aus230
hills
hills
SA
1622 posts
SA, 1622 posts
10 Nov 2011 8:39am
ok, I agree. I think this thread has run its course.

ALSA have posted their contact details, feel free to contact them. There is now an ALYF member here so feel free to send them a message.

Any organisation or club is welcome to post info on here, but do not assume they will read any comments posted on here.

Please remember this forum is like a "cyber meeting place" where people with similar interests are welcome to meet and discuss their sport. It is not trying to represent the sport nor be a conduit for communications between any organisations and the public.

As said above - please keep it fun.
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