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wenzel
wenzel
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25 Feb 2009 2:53am
Hello there,

we 're Wenzel and Emiel and live an the other side of the globe. Belgium to be specific.
We 're driving around for more than 6 years with a class 8 (kitebuggy) and are looking now for something new. Like landyachting etc.

By searching on the internet we discovered this forum and it seems very interesting. We did find some great information how to make your own landyacht.

So if you have more information about how to make the steering...

Everthing is welcome!


Greetings from Belgium.
hills
hills
SA
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SA, 1622 posts
25 Feb 2009 9:08am
G'day Wenzel and Emiel, welcome to the forum!!

I have a Pacific Magic which was designed by Paul Day (Landyacht on here). It has what is now considered the old fashioned style of steering and you can see the plans for it here:

www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Land%20Sailing/Original-Pacific-Magic-Plans-by-Paul-Day_1514690.aspx

These days most people perfer "layover steering". I think I've got some plans for it on paper so if someone hasn't answered this before I get home from work tonight, I'll scan them and post it for you.

Otherwise you could look at the Lefroy mini constuction in this thread, which has a whole new steering design.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33825

Cheers

Phil
BeeGee
BeeGee
VIC
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VIC, 99 posts
25 Feb 2009 10:47am
Wenzel, it would also be prudent to make you aware of the blokart. There is a very healthy community of blokart sailors in Belgium. Have a look at www.belgianblokartclub.be
hills
hills
SA
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SA, 1622 posts
25 Feb 2009 1:28pm
or in your hemisphere you could look at the x-sail too.
wenzel
wenzel
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12 posts
25 Feb 2009 5:02pm
Hello,

we are aware of the blowkart and the x-sail but that was not realy what we 're looking for. You buy it ready 2 go and is not realy a challenge to make one of your own

The Lefroy mini was more something that we had in mind. It looks nice and is not that hard 2 build.
The challenge would be 2 build one and if it's not good enough 2 modify it 2 our needs

Thanks for the answers.


Greetings,
wenzel
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
25 Feb 2009 6:19pm
G'Day Wenzel and Emiel,
Fantastic to hear from somebody new that wants to build, not just buy a Landyacht.
The Lefroy mini is a simple design that probably had 15 prototypes of various parts.
All the info on the steering system is in the thread that Hillsy mentioned www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33825
It would be the simplest and cheapest yacht Ive made so far. If you have any questions, we can answer,discuss straight away and if you are doing any modifications you can discuss first ,as you may not be the first to think of them.
I think , having built one you will love it on the European beaches.
I do dream of seeing a photo of one sailing at De Panne!.
you have an advantage over us in that the Danish Buggy wheels that you get over there with the 20mm axles are the perfect wheel for a mini.
. Always take lots of photos!
cheers Paul
splitpin
splitpin
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104 posts
25 Feb 2009 6:40pm
landyacht said...

G'Day Wenzel and Emiel,
Fantastic to hera from somebody new that wannts to build, not just buy a Landyacht.
The Lefroy mini is a simple design that probably had 15 prototypes of various parts.
All the info on the seering system is in the thread that Hillsy mentionedwww.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33825
It would be the simplist and cheapest yacht Ive made so far. If you have any questions, we can answer,discuss straght away and if you are doing any modifications you can discuss first as you may not be the first to think of them.
I think , having built one youu will love it on the European beaches.
I do dream of seeing a photo of one sailing at De Panne!.
you have an advantage over us in that the Danish Buggy wheels that you get over there with the 20mm axles are the perfect wheel for a mini.
. Always take lots of photos!
cheers Paul
translation.....hera = hear,wannts=wants,seering = steering,straght = straight

landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
25 Feb 2009 7:34pm
OOPS, thatll teach me be posting when I should be getting ready for dinner.
You can delete your posts now kids. G"DAY SPRITPIN
hills
hills
SA
1622 posts
SA, 1622 posts
25 Feb 2009 9:11pm
yes Dad!
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
25 Feb 2009 7:45pm
good boy
wenzel
wenzel
12 posts
12 posts
26 Feb 2009 4:55pm
G'day,


it will not be a quick project. But a slow learning proces. I work 6 days in the weak and welding is not my best side. But I promise you a photo of a Lake Lefroy Mini in De Panne.

@ Landyacht: I am surprised that you know De Panne? Have you ever been here before?



greetings,
wenzel and emiel
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
26 Feb 2009 7:14pm
Zeker!
was invited to sail STANDART at the World Championships in 1998.
Brilliant place ,beautiful beach, lovely people. great landyacht.
I would have a STANDART tommorow if it was a sensible yacht for Lake Lefroy.
We lived in a lovely house on Visserslaan, next to our good friends the Pascal and Ingrid Demusyere-De clerq.
I know that the South Australians will disagree but in Belgium I tasted the second best beer in the world, AND the best Chocolate milk!
Thier son Bastijn is here in Kalgoorlie workng for me at the moment!.
The welding on the LM has been designed to bebasic and simple welds .
many of the people who have or are still buildng them are making thier first or second welding project
hills
hills
SA
1622 posts
SA, 1622 posts
26 Feb 2009 9:01pm
landyacht said...


I know that the South Australians will disagree but in Belgium I tasted the second best beer in the world


If you're talking about Leffe Brun then there'll be no argument from me!!
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
26 Feb 2009 8:46pm
havent tried that one. The witbeer in Depanne was pretty darn good, But I have to say the Beer in Cuzco, Peru was just amazing
Just waiting for a certain Farmers Union chocmilk lover to chip in
wenzel
wenzel
12 posts
12 posts
2 Mar 2009 5:48pm
Always nice to hear that you have been here visiting. Next time I hear it as you come in Belgium and maybe we can meet.

@ Lanyacht: I have seen your yellow land yacht and I was amazed by the simplycity of it. It looks even easier 2 make than a Lake Lefroy Mini! I'm a wrong?


the 5th June we go to france for a few days buggyen and we are planning 2 rent a couple of landyachts. Also too steal some ideas.

We keep in touch!


wenzel
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
2 Mar 2009 8:26pm
The yellow yacht is built to the FISLY PROMO spec as much as possible. we are unable to obtain the sizes of steel or Aluminium tubing in the FISY specs.
the performance would be equivalent to racing in mid-fleet in a European Promo race.
construction is much the same, but uses much more expensive tubing.
We are able to get some as recycled free stuff but I think you would have to buy.
If you went to a PROMO I would get in touch with the relevant FISLY class association and copy a SeagullPROMO.
The idea of the MINI isthat it can be used on much smaller and poorer quality sailing venues due to its size and weight
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