Well I also am one of the rejected. I read the letter and the ALSA constitution and to my knowledge so far all the say so has come from David Rose and not the ALSA committee and the delegates from Land Sailing clubs throughout Australia. I am very disappointed with the out come and have not heard of an AGM to be held at the so called Nationals in Easter in SA.
It clearly states in their constitution that 30 days written notice is to be given for all affiliated members and those that wish to be affiliated also should have received notification of said AGM meeting. I was under the impression that ALSA was to encourage and promote clubs to be affiliated with ALSA. If no AGm is happening then is a general meeting happening at this event and if so why have we not been notified by writing in plenty of time what is on the agenda so we can all participate.
Why has ALSA refused to send info to a club that wishes to re-affiliate, the documents which were asked of them to send for the purpose of new club members. Why is decisions being made from one person and not a committee, all the requests put forward by our club was in accordance to the Department of Consumer and Employment Protection, which holds all club and associations constitutions. Not once during the process over the past year has any committee meeting been held and us notified of so we could attend and put forward our case for re-affiliation with ALSA. I could really go on and inform you other clubs out there what ALSA is not doing by their constitution but if have a copy and haven't read it then you sailing blind. I must be infront's wife. Ticked off an appalled at the way our club has been treated and also me as an individual that enjoys land sailing.

These all sound like valid concerns Mr & Mrs Infront, however other than giving you the opportunity to vent your frustrations I doubt much else will be achieved posting this here. This issue should be taken up directly with ALSA. I suspect Paul and Susan will be raising this at Lake Gilles.

I hope it can all be sorted with a positive outcome for all concerned.

lachlan3556 said...

Im not a member of any landsailing club or ALSA, and only hear news if it comes via this forum. From what I can tell its either not that well organised (ALSA) at present or very informal.

From the sounds of it things are going downhill (Not you hills ). I would like it if ALSA was a lot more transparent so everyone involved can see what they're up to.

After being a member of ALSA for 20 plus years until this recent debarcle (when suddenly all of LLLSC members apparently were de-affiliated and no longer wanted) I can say that whilst never hugely active ALSA used to operate reasonably efficently and within's its consittuitonal base. In my opinion the same can not be said now. All efforts to work with, compromise, offer to help, requests for information and payment of affiliation fees have veen either ignored, refused or returned to sender.

The most worrying thing is some of the official ALSA delegates remain blissfully unaware that there is any problems because they are not kept in the information loop.

It is high time that this mess was sorted out once and for all in an open and transparent manner. No one wants to air dirty laundry on a public forum but when repeated efforts to do things the *correct* way are refused options are reduced.

Yes I will bring my concerns to the ALSA AGM at the Nationals at Easter. Because the ALSA consitution says that the AGM happens at the Nationals I am presuming that it will go ahead even though no one has been written too or informed about it.

It is a pity it has come to crunch like this. I have personally written to the ALSA president requesting that ALSA reconsider accepting LLLSC's affliation fees prior to the Nationals so we could all have a great weekend without any angst or illfeeling from those who feel they have been treated poorly.

I guess the return this week of the clubs cheque for affiliation fees tells me what I need to know.

An angry LLLSC member

Is it about having a captive audience pinned down or should it be about a helpful committe promoting and building the sport.
This committe will decide who they want to a part of the sport so if you are a bit out spoken will you be included?

Maybe this forum should have an open ALSA line of communication. There should be nothing secret or exclusive about what they are doing as a body to develop the sport.
This can be an opportunity to ask for expressions of interrest and topics to be discussed in regards all aspects of this sport and from all those interested whether they are a club memebers or not. Then vote or approvae as per the constitution. As least isolated people will know what is happening before decisions are made and the information they are based on. It does not seem pratical to have a meeting on one side of the country and not have every one attend. Why not use this new technology to enhance the sport? Surely the constitution could be changed to allow for email voting, forums to discuss and propose new ideas. I had no idea that a new class 6 ruling was being applied. This forum brought that information to me.

I'll third it (first it? ). Landsailing being such a widespread sport, with remote members involved, the internet seems the perfect place to communicate. Not to say it should replace other communications of course.

I'd like to add that nothing stops the landsailing community having a general meeting at the nationals without ALSA support, after all the members (current and future) are the only reason ALSA is needed. Not trying to suggest a coup yet but things appear to need addressing.

I had never thought of starting a coup. But as Arjay said imagine if the blokart fraternity became involved with a working ALSA. I have felt that there is a division between what is thought of "land yacht and blokart". To me if it is wind powered and has wheels it is a land yacht. If it is home made or factory built is of no consequence. ALSA I thought would be combining the best of both worlds to develop the sport.

Imagine a meet with 100 competitors. The last Pacrim held in WA did this and with those numbers it is a spectactular and exciting thing, something you want to be a part of.