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deansh250
deansh250
32 posts
32 posts
24 Nov 2010 7:21am
What tire pressure do you use in the wheelbarrow tires when on the beach? What pressure on pavement?
cisco
cisco
QLD
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QLD, 12365 posts
24 Nov 2010 9:55am
They are rated for around 30 psi and I usually put 35-40 psi in mine for all surfaces.

I think some people are putting up to 60 psi in them.

You could probably go with lower pressure on tarmac to even out the wear on the tread without losing too much speed.

Remember that on sand you are looking for the hardest sand possible. Any softness in a sailing surface sucks energy from the yacht so you do not deflate tyres on sand as you would with a 4 WD.

I tried my yacht on a mud flat that was dry on the surface (a thin crust) but was slightly spongey. It wouldn't get up and go at all. When it got a bit of side thrust it would break the crust and lose all energy.

Tyre pressure is something you can play around with but I find 35-40 psi suits most surfaces. When it comes to racing you will have to ask the experts what is optimal for different surfaces. Happy Sailing.
kiwi307
kiwi307
488 posts
488 posts
24 Nov 2010 9:57am
To quote JP Krischer (manufacturer for many years of Seagull yachts) "the yacht must answer the conditions which it sails in" Hard surface = hard pressure, soft surface = softer pressure.
I have never used anything as hard as 40 psi and often used 15 FWIW.
I would suggest that 25 is a good start point in the back and maybe 12 in the front, but very dependant on design, tyre type, siize, ply ratings yadda, yadda. Good luck
Test pilot 1
Test pilot 1
WA
1430 posts
WA, 1430 posts
24 Nov 2010 11:15am
For our LLM's we put 30 - 35 psi in the rear wheels and 20 - 25 in front, using wheel barrow wheels all around. This gives good wearing except on dry salt or that perth lake. Ride is fairly smooth as well. Too soft just sucks speed.
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
24 Nov 2010 8:38pm
are you back yet TP1
there is left over fresh gnochi with 4 cheese sauce on thursday night.
on tyres 30psi in 4 ply wheelbarrows, 35 to race, 25 on the front.. My minis cant use 2 plys on the rear as it just destroys them.
kiwi307
kiwi307
488 posts
488 posts
25 Nov 2010 6:48pm
landyacht said...

.. My minis cant use 2 plys on the rear as it just destroys them.


Interesting!! Class 5s lived with 2 ply on tarmac for absolute ages, and at around 35 on the seal. On sand they lasted till they perished with 25 to 35!
Then again with the mini it is most usual to be chucking them round a lot so I guess tyre destruction is part of the game.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
26 Nov 2010 7:59am
With a blokart on tarmac you can rip out a set of rears during a four hour session particularly if it is a short course car park with lots of turning.
aus230
aus230
WA
1660 posts
WA, 1660 posts
26 Nov 2010 7:16am
Now theres a diference, My 26" tyres will do about 6 seasons at safety bay where the wheel barrow tyres last 2 meetings on average. I use 40psi on aus230
Cheers
aus230
deansh250
deansh250
32 posts
32 posts
26 Nov 2010 7:43am
Thanks for the info. Tried my LLM on beach for the first time last weekend. Was disappointed that the sand wasn't hard enough. Yacht seemed to dig the leeward wheel in slightly then just bog down. I really need to find a nice large parking lot. I'll try to post some pictures of my yacht soon. Thanks again for this very helpful website.
Hiko
Hiko
1229 posts
1229 posts
26 Nov 2010 9:09am
deansh250 said...

Thanks for the info. Tried my LLM on beach for the first time last weekend. Was disappointed that the sand wasn't hard enough. Yacht seemed to dig the leeward wheel in slightly then just bog down. I really need to find a nice large parking lot. I'll try to post some pictures of my yacht soon. Thanks again for this very helpful website.


Soft sand just kills them We only sail on the beach at low tide here locally
Above high water mark is a no go area is that where you were?
Some beaches just are not suitable even at low tide just too soft
Good beaches are a joy though
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
27 Nov 2010 12:10am
Hiko said...
Some beaches just are not suitable even at low tide just too soft
Good beaches are a joy though


And one of the best ones is Farnborough Beach, Yeppoon on the Capricorn Coast, Queensland.

The tides reach up to 5 metres in range, the slope of the beach is near horizontal and the sand is very fine with just the right amount of mud mixed in to make it almost as firm as hot mix bitumen.

It's bewdafull mates and the wind angle and strength is plucking near perfect. Thorry about my lithp. Juft got my new $1,870 falf front toof fitted day before yefterday.

Check the beach out on Google Erf.

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