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Created by KAONAONA > 9 months ago, 11 Jun 2017
KAONAONA
229 posts
11 Jun 2017 11:58PM
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This yacht is a 6.7m class.
6.7m rope rule.
Max size sail is 5sqm max!

Otherwise anything goes. i.e. tire/wheel combo, mast, frame configuration. All open to whatever the builder wants to do. All fine as long as it fits the rope and has a sail 5sqm or smaller.

The owner of this yacht, as well as 1 or 2 others clean up the class. They never seem to finish lower than third place, EVER!

I'm pretty sure this is a scratch built rig and not a cut down fed 5. The mast is an actual fed 5 mast. The owner offers custom built yachts out of Vegas.

That is a Skip Elliot carbon sail. Sails range from 5-800 usd. Skip also races the 6.7 class and is one of the three to beat.

Sail maker link....www.epsails.com/index.htm

Sin City Dirt Boats
Mini yacht specialist

Fabricator of Mini Yachts and custom parts
(Phone and email omitted) Can be found on the NALSA sight.
- Be On The Podium -

For those that think "bike" tires and wheels don't work, think again!

us123
10 posts
22 Sep 2017 6:54AM
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Were is the rest of the yacht do you race it like that? If your going to promote show the whole yacht

Test pilot 1
WA, 1428 posts
26 Sep 2017 9:29PM
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The trouble with limiting sail size penalizes those of us who are heavier.

Hiko
1181 posts
27 Sep 2017 9:13AM
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I hope he wears a full safety harness
Imagine a solid front on collision
Also Is there anything to stop feet getting thrown back if they slip off pedals?

Test pilot 1
WA, 1428 posts
27 Sep 2017 2:38PM
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Maybe a gender reassigning machine?

KAONAONA
229 posts
13 Oct 2017 8:43AM
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us123 said..
Were is the rest of the yacht do you race it like that? If your going to promote show the whole yacht


Yes, that's the whole thing. It sails just like that!

KAONAONA
229 posts
13 Oct 2017 8:45AM
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Test pilot 1 said..
The trouble with limiting sail size penalizes those of us who are heavier.


That's why this yacht is "bare minimum"....

KAONAONA
229 posts
13 Oct 2017 8:51AM
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Hiko said..
I hope he wears a full safety harness
Imagine a solid front on collision
Also Is there anything to stop feet getting thrown back if they slip off pedals?



This is where you keep your feet. If you keep them on the pedals, they don't come off.
You don't have anything other than pegs on a dirt bike, do you?


Windcrazy
89 posts
14 Oct 2017 6:24AM
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What is the total cost of the yacht with 5.0 sail shipped to portland Or.? What is the weight load capacity and can it be broke down for shipping?

Thanks

KAONAONA
229 posts
14 Oct 2017 10:08AM
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This quote is definitely not a solid quote but I think you're looking at between two and four G and that'll depend if you want the carbon racing sails or other type.
the whole yacht breaks down except the mast it's only two piece. The front end, axles and seat come off. I think shipping to anywhere in Oregon is about 300 bucks. That's more due to the size than the weight.

Windcrazy
89 posts
14 Oct 2017 10:31PM
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I went the nalsa web site and there is no sin city yachts and/or dirt boats listed. 4 g's is a little on the spendy side. I can almost drive to vages
round trip for $300 in my truck.

KAONAONA
229 posts
15 Oct 2017 10:20PM
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Windcrazy said..
I went the nalsa web site and there is no sin city yachts and/or dirt boats listed. 4 g's is a little on the spendy side. I can almost drive to vages
round trip for $300 in my truck.


www.nalsa.org/suppliers.htm
Address for the ad

Yes 4 g's, but they are completely custom built, not a "cookie cutter" yacht.

Just like any other vehicle sport, you pay for performance! Speed and performance cost $$$.
1 carbon sail will run nearly $900 bucks alone. Other sails will run $450 and up. Sailworks is a good brand but they are not giving those away! Most of the cost is the sail or sails. For the price of one sail I could build a half dozen yacht chassis I'm sure you could get a sail quote for cheaper but it all depends if you are racing to win or just having fun. Hell, as far as that goes, you could use bed sheets!!

These are not fun yachts they are full on race rockets. If you're in it for fun then build yourself a LLM or get a Manta, Seagull or Airtrak, or any other "cookie cutter" type yacht. Go ahead and order one of those and see how much shipping would be!

I'm pretty sure you could drive anywhere cheaper than freight would cost, especially if your not counting your time, insurance, worker's comp. operating cost's and taxes and everything else.

Buying a pre-built yacht is not for the thrifty or the moderate man. It's for the rich or one with a fair amount of $$$. Honestly. you don't see poor folk running around winning land sailing championships or in land yachting all together!

What's wrong with what you've been running?

Windcrazy
89 posts
16 Oct 2017 2:34AM
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Oh;
It's like the sign on the wall at my local speed shop,"speed cost how fast do you want to go". How many people are in this NEW 6.7m class?
Thanks Anyway!!

Hiko
1181 posts
18 Oct 2017 7:30PM
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KAONAONA said..



Hiko said..
I hope he wears a full safety harness
Imagine a solid front on collision
Also Is there anything to stop feet getting thrown back if they slip off pedals?






This is where you keep your feet. If you keep them on the pedals, they don't come off.
You don't have anything other than pegs on a dirt bike, do you?




You are right about the dirt bike but consider what happens when your foot comes off the pegs and hits the ground
on a dirt bike. It swings back. Now consider what happens in the case above Different scenario

KAONAONA
229 posts
18 Oct 2017 9:25PM
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At the last ALC there were 8 entrants
Two less than I5.6

Terry Fulbright is the owner or sin city dirt boats. As you can see, his motto "be on the podium" is true. Maybe not for you but it is for him.

Sailed: 10, Discards: 2, To count: 8, Entries: 8, Scoring system: Appendix A First Last Class SailNo R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7 R8 R9 R10 R11 R12 Penalty Total Nett
Terry Fulbright Mini 6.7 US 292 (1) (1) 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10 8
Mark Harris Mini 6.7 US 60 (2) (2) 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 20 16
Howard Haupt Mini 6.7 US 26 (4) 3 3 3 3 (4) 3 3 4 4 34 26
Kym Lapthorne Mini 6.7 US 363 3 (4) 4 4 (5) 3 4 4 3 3 37 28
Bill Gibson Mini 6.7 US 723 (6) 5 5 5 4 5 5 5 (6 DNC) 6 DNC 52 40
Steve Kotch Mini 6.7 US 389 5 6 6 6 6 (7 DNC) (7 DNC) 7 DNC 6 DNC 6 DNC 62 48
Bill Robertson Mini 6.7 US 511 7 (8 DNC) (8 DNC) 8 DNC 8 DNC 7 DNC 7 DNC 7 DNC 6 DNC 6 DNC 72 56
Frank Spears Mini 6.7 US 29 (9 DNC) (8 DNC) 8 DNC 8 DNC 8 DNC 7 DNC 7 DNC 7 DNC 6 DNC 6 DNC 74 57

Test pilot 1
WA, 1428 posts
19 Oct 2017 9:25AM
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KAONAONA said..

This yacht is a 6.7m class.
6.7m rope rule.
Max size sail is 5sqm max!

Otherwise anything goes. i.e. tire/wheel combo, mast, frame configuration. All open to whatever the builder wants to do. All fine as long as it fits the rope and has a sail 5sqm or smaller.

The owner of this yacht, as well as 1 or 2 others clean up the class. They never seem to finish lower than third place, EVER!

I'm pretty sure this is a scratch built rig and not a cut down fed 5. The mast is an actual fed 5 mast. The owner offers custom built yachts out of Vegas.

That is a Skip Elliot carbon sail. Sails range from 5-800 usd. Skip also races the 6.7 class and is one of the three to beat.

Sail maker link....www.epsails.com/index.htm

Sin City Dirt Boats
Mini yacht specialist

Fabricator of Mini Yachts and custom parts
(Phone and email omitted) Can be found on the NALSA sight.
- Be On The Podium -

For those that think "bike" tires and wheels don't work, think again!


and all the other stipulations!

Windcrazy
89 posts
27 Oct 2017 1:37PM
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Look at the sail the guy had that won the worlds, I didn't see your guy there?

KAONAONA
229 posts
16 Dec 2017 3:37AM
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There was no 6.7 class at the worlds! That's why you didn't see him there. Besides, sometimes fishing takes priority. On the way back from Smith creek, after the worlds, I stopped at lake Tahoe for three days and caught some Mac's.

There is more prestige in winning the ALC several times than being a one hit wonder at the worlds......No offense John E. (also an ALC winner in 2 classes)

KAONAONA
229 posts
16 Dec 2017 3:52AM
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Windcrazy said..
Look at the sail the guy had that won the worlds, I didn't see your guy there?


The winning sail in the i5.6 was a copy of the same sail in the subject! Sailworks sails are based on the same design.
The original Fed 5 design.

I have compared all three sails, one laying on top of the other and there are only slight, hardly noticeable differences. Materials used are the only obvious tell tales. Luff, leach and foot are nearly identical.

I'm leaving out some details on purpose to keep from stepping on some toes!!



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