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hoop
hoop
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1979 posts
6 Aug 2006 1:22pm
Unchained ,where did you find that picture of the wierd looking 12 foot skiff? I tried looking for info on them before but couldnt find much.
Unchained
Unchained
WA
193 posts
WA, 193 posts
7 Aug 2006 7:32pm
I got it from my uncle who lives in queensland he owns a sailmaking company and has contacts that are doing some designing of the hulls and playing around with them.
There are a few out racing at the moment but they still need some developing.
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
8 Aug 2006 7:51am
Do they use rudder foils? They'd be bloody hard to sail downwind without them. They must be quick uphill.
Unchained
Unchained
WA
193 posts
WA, 193 posts
8 Aug 2006 1:23pm
Not quite sure, i'll see if i can get some information for you. I put some more pictures up.
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
8 Aug 2006 7:15pm
thanks
derailed
derailed
WA
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WA, 18 posts
9 Aug 2006 6:47pm
hoop,u can get some other pics of the new 12ft skiff hull from www.vanmunsterboats.com/ and go to 12ft skiff there is also heaps of info
Unchained
Unchained
WA
193 posts
WA, 193 posts
9 Aug 2006 7:02pm
mate duno what your on about but that sure isn't a the new 12ft skiff design... looks more like a woof build.
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
10 Aug 2006 7:48am
Yeah thats the standard 12s. I was trying to find info on the new skinny ones.(thanks for that though). 12s look like fun to sail but they would be super expensive. $20000 for a bare hull ,then you need to get three rigs and fit the thing out.
Unchained
Unchained
WA
193 posts
WA, 193 posts
10 Aug 2006 6:46pm
Yeh but my god they would be a bloody awsome boat to sail.
I was talking to one of the guys who sails a boat in sydney, and his lightwind kite is 54sqm. God damn that would be fun.

As for price there is always sponsorship and also SECOND HAND BOATS, might of heard of them before. Dont know
illusion
illusion
NSW
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NSW, 11 posts
14 Aug 2006 8:45am
oi so how much do you's reckon one of those new skinny 12's would cost 30 ,40 ,50 000 ??????? .. i saw 1 sailing on the wkend looked fast and nice but struggled in the light air to stay upright
Unchained
Unchained
WA
193 posts
WA, 193 posts
14 Aug 2006 12:58pm
i think their around 48000 rigged at the moment, but i guess as they set in, and become more common the price will lower.
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
14 Aug 2006 4:21pm
I wouldnt have thought the hull price for a skinny one or a fat one would be alot different.
Unchained
Unchained
WA
193 posts
WA, 193 posts
14 Aug 2006 7:58pm
It isn't really that much difference, if you look at the van munster site. The $20800 is for a bare hull without rudder box, without undercoat, without paint, without selfdraining. Just a bare carbon hull.

For a van munster hull fully rigged without masts, foils, booms or sails, it costs around $30000.

Then if you add the cost of 3 masts, 3+ sets of sails, booms, foils (1815 each) ect ect.

Then i guess its actually quite close together
derailed
derailed
WA
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WA, 18 posts
15 Aug 2006 2:13pm
Hey unchained, do you no the name of the company who is making these hulls, or which state the company is running out of , just thought u might know seeing that ur uncle has contacts with the people .
Unchained
Unchained
WA
193 posts
WA, 193 posts
15 Aug 2006 8:57pm
I know stuff all about it, all i got was an email with some pictures, and a price...
I think it's being made by a few people rather than a "company" as its not really in production yet.
derailed
derailed
WA
18 posts
WA, 18 posts
16 Aug 2006 3:39pm
so how come there are a few out racing would'nt it be just one boat these peolpe would be playing around with on ... just sounds a bit weird thats all .
Unchained
Unchained
WA
193 posts
WA, 193 posts
16 Aug 2006 6:31pm
umm as far as i know there is 1 racing. and the boat is still going through plannning and final checks...

As for your question hoop, I sent an email to my uncle, but he is in melbourne doing some motobike races, I dont think that hydrofoils are alowed on 12ft skiffs tho//
derailed
derailed
WA
18 posts
WA, 18 posts
19 Aug 2006 5:33pm
Originally posted by Unchained


There are a few out racing at the moment but they still need some developing.
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contradiction get it wright wat is it 1 or a few .
Unchained
Unchained
WA
193 posts
WA, 193 posts
19 Aug 2006 5:55pm
got no idea, i know of 1 racing, and 1 in production....
I know nothing else about this class, and as of now that is all the information I can give.
rosey
rosey
NSW
575 posts
NSW, 575 posts
17 Sep 2006 7:45pm
munster built the first skinny one for james francis im pretty sure, dont know whether he is racing it or not though?
yabs
yabs
NSW
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NSW, 3 posts
1 Oct 2006 3:33am
you can see more 12s at www.skiff.org.au
i have a 12 and they dont really cost that much if you have a plan over a couple of years to set it up ive hade the same mast and mainsail for 8 years and its still quick
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