200Nm limit.

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Windjana
Windjana
WA
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WA, 405 posts
1 Oct 2015 7:52am
Hi guys.

I believe there is a certificate you can get for your vessel that allows you to take it outside the 200Nm limit and, I guess, to overseas ports.

Does anyone know the name of the certificate and who to contact about it?

Cheers!
Toph
Toph
WA
1886 posts
WA, 1886 posts
1 Oct 2015 8:27am
Are you referring to registering your boat on the Australian register or for insurance purposes?

If it's the former, than I'm sure it's just that, the Australian Ships register, the later.... Well good luck, but you would be best to phone your insurance company. As far as law in traveling out to the 200nm limit, I don't think there is any.

MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
2711 posts
NSW, 2711 posts
1 Oct 2015 6:41pm
There is no law preventing going further than 200nm. If you want to go to a foreign jurisdiction you need to be a registered Australian vessel. You can go to Lord Howe or Norfolk Islands on state registration.

Most insurance companies have a limit of 200nm unless specifically cleared by the insurance company.
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
880 posts
QLD, 880 posts
1 Oct 2015 9:03pm
what's happen if the boat is register, but not on Aust Ship Register
you can't go pass horizont to foreign country
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
2711 posts
NSW, 2711 posts
1 Oct 2015 9:50pm
Charriot said...
what's happen if the boat is register, but not on Aust Ship Register
you can't go pass horizont to foreign country

What are you trying to say Charriot? A boat either has state registration and can't go to a foreign jurisdiction (inside another countries territorial seas) or it is Australian registered and can go to another country. Staying in international waters or Oz waters (the islands) doesn't need Australian registration, just state.
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
880 posts
QLD, 880 posts
1 Oct 2015 11:23pm
simple hypothetical question
do you need a boat register on Aus ShipnReg when you go to foreign country?
my prev. Swanson was in the past registered, I try to get renewal ..pages and pages..cant be bothered ..sold the boat.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7756 posts
NSW, 7756 posts
2 Oct 2015 8:53am
As far as I am aware you only need Australian registration if you are buying overseas and bringing a boat back here. I doubt whether those people paddling Kayaks to NZ are registered Australian ships. I could be wrong. If you are not worried about insurance I think you can go anywhere.
Bruski068
Bruski068
VIC
457 posts
VIC, 457 posts
2 Oct 2015 2:27pm
For citizens of Australia you cannot clear customs and immigration unless your boat is on the Aust. ships registry, not sure how the people going to N.Z. in kayaks get away with it, unless there is some kind of dispensation for fools maybe lol
Windjana
Windjana
WA
405 posts
WA, 405 posts
2 Oct 2015 1:00pm
Thanks guys!

Pretty sure that is what I'm after - the Australian Ships Registry Certificate that stays with the yacht.
So a yacht can have it's state registration - but to be able go overseas, you need to have Australian registration also.

Cheers!
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
2711 posts
NSW, 2711 posts
2 Oct 2015 5:05pm
As Charriot says, getting Australian registration is a bit of a task and really only for those who wish to take their boat to a foreign destination.

You don't need it to go outside 200nm. Jessica Watson went around the world and didn't need Australian registration. She probably had it in case she needed to go somewhere in an emergency.
Toph
Toph
WA
1886 posts
WA, 1886 posts
2 Oct 2015 4:00pm
NowandZen said..
Thanks guys!

Pretty sure that is what I'm after - the Australian Ships Registry Certificate that stays with the yacht.
So a yacht can have it's state registration - but to be able go overseas, you need to have Australian registration also.

Cheers!



Yes and No. See both the post above yours by Bruski and the one below by MB.... It depends on why you are going outside the limit (which for all intents and purposes is an insurance limit).

If you don't intend to make landfall and clear customs in another country, in other words, you sail out there and back for giggles, than no (if you want to sail out there and back in order to qualify the passage for Yachtmaster, than it no longer counts either).

If you intend to visit another country, than that countries Customs and Immigration will want to see one.

Agent nods
Agent nods
622 posts
622 posts
2 Oct 2015 4:49pm
You don't need Aust Rego to leave the country, but you do need to get a customs clearance when leaving.

I think the two main reasons is to ensure the boat is not stolen, (both from Aust side and then when arriving in another country) and to make it easier to return, Ie GST and duty. They also like to try and keep track of citizens leaving.

I bought a boat in Queensland and took it overseas, it took customs two days to clear it when leaving Cairns, but otherwise no problem.









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