30' Keelboat Questions

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84Sonata
84Sonata
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24 Nov 2013 6:12pm
Hi, I'm a newbie to this forum.
I'm looking at purchasing a Currawong 30 keelboat.
I believe they were solidly built.

Does anyone have any tips for common problems to look out for ?
How tall is their mast ? (I need to get under a 12m bridge)

I owned a trailer sailer for the last 17 years, I'm looking for something bit bigger & ocean capable.
I'm looking for a boat that can be easily short/single handed.
Occasional trips into Bass Straight.
Budget to 30K due to family restraints.
Plenty of enthusiasm to clean up an old boat.


southace
southace
SA
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24 Nov 2013 6:09pm
Make sure it has a lead keel not cast iron!

Oh and alot of enthusiasm, time and money will be needed for a cheap old boat just keep that in mind!

84Sonata
84Sonata
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24 Nov 2013 6:53pm
Thank you for the advice.
As I'm looking for my first keelboat, I want to go into this with as much knowledge as possible before I commit.
Ramona
Ramona
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24 Nov 2013 7:29pm
Well Currawongs are one of the best 30 foot yachts ever built. Built to the half ton rule they are the smallest yachts to ever win the Sydney Hobart race.
They only come with lead keels, fully encased so no leaks ever. They will not fit under a 12 metre bridge. Hulls were molded by Baker and there was no better craftsman of that era.

30 grand will get you a really good boat but not mine!
84Sonata
84Sonata
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26 Nov 2013 8:20pm
If you were to choose between a Currawong 30 and a Swanson 32 of similar condition, what would your choice be ?
Any comments regarding differences in performance, ease of handling / single handing, maintainability ?
Thanks,
MorningBird
MorningBird
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26 Nov 2013 9:48pm
A mate had a Swanson 32. Sailed very nicely from Pittwater to Sydney in good conditions.
I understand the Swanson deck can suffer from water in the ply. Not aware of other problems.
Ramona has a Currawong, I'm sure he can sing their praises, and he knows what he is talking about.
Seamonkey_H2024
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26 Nov 2013 10:16pm
I recently bought a clansman which I am very happy with. I was looking at compass's as well. I guess you should consider if you want fin or full length keel.
Ramona
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27 Nov 2013 9:30am
84Sonata said..

If you were to choose between a Currawong 30 and a Swanson 32 of similar condition, what would your choice be ?
Any comments regarding differences in performance, ease of handling / single handing, maintainability ?
Thanks,




Well I bought a Currawong but I have always been a fan of Swanson 32's. I looked at a Swanson 32 a few years ago, bubble cabin version, laid deck and a twin spreader rig and one of the rare factory fit outs. It was 40 grand at the time but the same boat was on eBay for 15 a few months back with a new engine. I did not buy at the time because of the old Yanmar engine [horizontal 12hp].

The Swanson has an encased lead keel like the Currawong so there are no keel bolts to worry about. Slightly longer and nearly a foot wider they are fairly roomy. Headroom depends on which cabin they have. The bubble cabin has full in the main cabin but not forward. Later versions have the long cabin from the 36 and there are variations on these as well. My mates has an extended bubble cabin! They all have fibreglass moulded cabins and cockpits but the deck is glassed over ply. The Currawong is all 'glass.
Performance wise the Currawong is probably faster but not by much. Both are supreme ocean going vessels, easy to singlehand and will look after you.

I would go for the one with the best equipment level. Mast head furler, twin speed self tailing winches and good race history. But forget all the crap and buy from the heart.
Fiesta
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27 Nov 2013 8:50am


If you were to choose between a Currawong 30 and a Swanson 32 of similar condition, what would your choice be ?
Any comments regarding differences in performance, ease of handling / single handing, maintainability ?
Thanks,


The Currawong 30 is the smallest boat to win the Sydney to Hobart, (Zeuss II) and designed by Peter Joubert. We had a Pelican 27 designed by the same guy, it was pretty quick for its age and displacement and we frequently embarrassed lighter boats of similar length around the cans and it loved offshore. It was great to to steer on any point of sail in any conditions.

Given the comments from Ramona above, full glass construction, no composite deck to get soggy, encapsulated keel, reasonable accommodation, with all respect to Ron Swanson, the Currawong is the go in my book - assuming like for like on condition and equipment etc etc. What a great decision to have to make!
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
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27 Nov 2013 2:01pm
Went the other way around..... from keel boat to trailer sailer.
How do you like the smell of fresh bird crap?
That what put me off. More cleaning than sailing. Also could not get close to beaches and the worry of a reef or sand bank (did it once ).
I keep my Farr 740 at my club (hardstand)with the mast up for about $350 a year, no poo, no barnicles, no antifouling, no worries about losing the mooring after each storm.
MattM14
MattM14
NSW
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27 Nov 2013 5:03pm
Interesting comments on the Swanson 32 soggy deck issue. Being the owner of one I can't say I have noticed this and she is nearly 30 years on the water. If it was a common problem I am thankful I got lucky but I am wondering what the tell tale signs would be? What should I be looking for?
Ramona
Ramona
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27 Nov 2013 7:24pm
MatM14 said..

Interesting comments on the Swanson 32 soggy deck issue. Being the owner of one I can't say I have noticed this and she is nearly 30 years on the water. If it was a common problem I am thankful I got lucky but I am wondering what the tell tale signs would be? What should I be looking for?



If you had a laid deck, that is a laid deck over ply you may have problems with moisture getting into the ply though failed fastenings, but with glass over ply you should be trouble free. Get back to us in another 30 years!


As Fiesta mentioned above, Zeus II was the smallest boat boat to win the Sydney Hobart. It is also the only yacht to ever win designed by an amateur!
84Sonata
84Sonata
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27 Nov 2013 8:43pm
Thank you for your comments everyone,

The tumblehome on the Currawong has caught my eye, its like an S&S34 shape.

I'm going to try and visit a couple of boats over the next two weekends.
I'll post any findings.
claverton
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NSW
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27 Nov 2013 9:03pm
Whatever way you go try and go for a tiller rather than wheel. They are a lot easier for shorthanded. I'm currently converting my Currawong from wheel to tiller and it's a fair bit of rigmarole.
Ramona
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28 Nov 2013 8:59am
84Sonata said..

Thank you for your comments everyone,

The tumblehome on the Currawong has caught my eye, its like an S&S34 shape.

I'm going to try and visit a couple of boats over the next two weekends.
I'll post any findings.




The tumblehome is always attractive, it is problematic if you use slipways and are trying to keep the slipway supports from scraping the sides.

Feel free to post links to the vessels you view. We love to nitpick!
KemoSabe
KemoSabe
NSW
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5 Dec 2013 11:12pm
Have a look at the Cavalier 32 or 975 as they are sometimes called. A very comfortable sea boat, pretty to look at, easily single handed and can do 7 knots over the ground under headsail alone. I owned one for 5 years and wish I'd never sold it.
Ramona
Ramona
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6 Dec 2013 9:21am
Damn that's a fast Cavalier. Mate owns one, he reckons he starts the motor when the speed drops to 6 knots. Interestingly when we have been sailing offshore in close company he has never been able to catch my 4 knot leadmine.
Dezman
Dezman
NSW
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12 Dec 2013 9:45pm
Hey iv got the perfect boat at 11.80 meters and just on the market! 'Look in the classifieds' but I have heard good things about the currywong. As for tiller steer! Hmmm, I just push the button on the course master and go to bed :) or cook tea, change sails and etc. anyhow its a buyers market so have fun in the hunt.
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