ANOTHER sinking by Orca

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garymalmgren
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scruzin
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26 Jul 2024 9:55am


One theory is that pods of Orcas have developed a playful "fad" for going after rudders.

www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-has-a-group-of-orcas-suddenly-started-attacking-boats/

Let's hope Southern Ocean Orcas never develop that habit.
JonE
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26 Jul 2024 5:47pm
You'd want some of those things the salmon guys use to deter seals from the fish pens.

Give 'em a headache.
tarquin1
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26 Jul 2024 3:50pm
I don't think you want to piss off a pod if Orcas. But yes something.
JonE
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26 Jul 2024 8:25pm
They learned it, they can unlearn it. Question is how?

Obviously electricity is out.

www.stm-products.com/en/products/fishing-technology/dissuasori-per-delfini-yellow/ddd-03l-ddd-03n~52.html

Dolphin deterrent - haven't read of anyone trying to use them

Edit - someone's doing it: www.yachtingworld.com/news/whale-pingers-trialled-to-deter-orcas-149697
tarquin1
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julesmoto
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31 Jul 2024 2:13pm
www.facebook.com/share/r/ECQost9rntZKytUT/?mibextid=D5vuiz
Meanwhile this is more of an Oz problem in our northerly latitudes.
Ramona
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31 Jul 2024 5:30pm
julesmoto said..
www.facebook.com/share/r/ECQost9rntZKytUT/?mibextid=D5vuiz
Meanwhile this is more of an Oz problem in our northerly latitudes.


One of the many advantages of a sugar scoop!
garymalmgren
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31 Jul 2024 4:51pm
I really don't believe in sailing with pets!!
dearjohn
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1 Aug 2024 5:23pm
JonE said..
You'd want some of those things the salmon guys use to deter seals from the fish pens.

Give 'em a headache.


Shotguns?
Jolene
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1 Aug 2024 6:23pm
dearjohn said..


Shotguns?


Definately,, they would soon learn.
dearjohn
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1 Aug 2024 6:45pm
Jolene said..

dearjohn said..


Shotguns?



Definately,, they would soon learn.


'It's coming right for us'
Trek
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2 Aug 2024 11:00am
Sometimes I wonder if Whales are far more intelligent than we think and recognize that we humans are destroying their environment, resent it and are trying to fight back.
JonE
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2 Aug 2024 6:03pm
julesmoto said..
www.facebook.com/share/r/ECQost9rntZKytUT/?mibextid=D5vuiz
Meanwhile this is more of an Oz problem in our northerly latitudes.


Post of the week, "living his best life"

that's actually given me the willies.

Now waiting for "that's why you need a nice closed cockpit" posts
MorningBird
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2 Aug 2024 7:29pm
Trek said..
Sometimes I wonder if Whales are far more intelligent than we think and recognize that we humans are destroying their environment, resent it and are trying to fight back.

Whale numbers are increasing so they might like any environmental changes that might be happening.
Especially that sea levels aren't rising!
www.bom.gov.au/ntc/IDO70000/IDO70000_60370_SLI.pdf
JonE
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2 Aug 2024 7:43pm
MorningBird said..

Trek said..
Sometimes I wonder if Whales are far more intelligent than we think and recognize that we humans are destroying their environment, resent it and are trying to fight back.


Whale numbers are increasing so they might like any environmental changes that might be happening.
Especially that sea levels aren't rising!
www.bom.gov.au/ntc/IDO70000/IDO70000_60370_SLI.pdf


Hmm - I would say the minimum and mean on that chart are both obviously trending upward.
MorningBird
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2 Aug 2024 8:18pm
Yes.
The important message is rising sea levels are not encroaching on dry land, the Maldives aren't being flooded nor are the South Pacific countries.
Sadly, my Leichhardt place won't be waterfront in my lifetime, even if I live another few hundred years.
It would be an interesting research topic why the minimum and mean appear to be rising when the maximum is stable.
Ramona
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3 Aug 2024 8:25am
It's the old story of getting your own message across. While there are areas where the sea level is obviously rising there are also areas that have raised several feet in recent times. That's why the maximum is stable.
julesmoto
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3 Aug 2024 8:54am
Ramona said..
It's the old story of getting your own message across. While there are areas where the sea level is obviously rising there are also areas that have raised several feet in recent times. That's why the maximum is stable.


Totally don't get sea level rise being differential throughout the planet. Barring local man-made effects like large canals or subsistence due to mining or drilling I would have thought that the moon's pull on the tides would be constant and predictable so that overall any rise would even out and be consistent throughout the planet.
Ramona
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3 Aug 2024 9:06am
julesmoto said..

Ramona said..
It's the old story of getting your own message across. While there are areas where the sea level is obviously rising there are also areas that have raised several feet in recent times. That's why the maximum is stable.



Totally don't get sea level rise being differential throughout the planet. Barring local man-made effects like large canals or subsistence due to mining or drilling I would have thought that the moon's pull on the tides would be constant and predictable so that overall any rise would even out and be consistent throughout the planet.


The rises are do to the shifting plates. Whole islands suddenly appear.
JonE
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3 Aug 2024 2:31pm
moons pull isn't constant, it doesn't orbit in a perfect circle, earth isn't perfectly spherical, doesn't spin on a verticals axis, pull at the equator is nearly vertical, pull at the poles is near horizontal. Ocean floor isn't flat.

Just google the Thwaites Glacier. It's like the plug in the bath. When it goes, which it looks like it's going to, it's going allow all the glaciers behind it to just slide into the sea.

Its going to make that 20cm look like the rainwater you sponge out of your bilge after a few days rain..
Ramona
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3 Aug 2024 5:45pm
Convert the mass of the Artic ice into melted water mass and spread it over the surface area of earth.
JonE
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3 Aug 2024 7:17pm
www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-02-16/thwaites-glacier-melting-icefin-revolution-sea-level-rise/101970762
65cm just from Thwaites. It's about a kilometre deep so plenty in it.
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