Advice on jib furler

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jgb1787
jgb1787
WA
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15 Feb 2015 8:24pm
Any advice in regards to jib furlers to fit a 7.00m yacht?
Is it worth it?
Also Iv been told there's a few guys around Perth with decent second hand furlers sitting around but seem hard to track down?

Thanks in advance :)
brett221
brett221
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15 Feb 2015 11:02pm
Only you can really know if it is worth it or not, on a 24ftr you would only need a smaller unit like a Profurl C260 which you can buy from Whitworths quite cheaply.
If you are single handing, will definitely make life easier.
cisco
cisco
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15 Feb 2015 11:22pm

I have a head sail furler on my 30 footer which will be coming off as soon as possible.

Furlers are useful on larger yachts that have a cutter rig where the head sail and stay sail are both on furlers.

On yachts less than 40 ft in length I believe they are a hinderance to efficient sailing.

2 cents.
Rattlehead
Rattlehead
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15 Feb 2015 11:27pm
Just got a profurl pro am 2 structural furler off these guys , very happy with quality and price of unit.
You need to decide to go for a traditional drum furler with a foil , or the latest technology lighter weight and simpler structural furler.

aaa.shopfactory.com/index.html

Cheap drum furler with foil section
www.northsailsdirect.com/product/tabid/62/productid/83/sename/schaefer-snapfurl-cf-500/default.aspx


www.profurl.com/images/info_pages/catalogue-version-2-2015-229.pdf
Ramona
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16 Feb 2015 8:49am
cisco said..

I have a head sail furler on my 30 footer which will be coming off as soon as possible.

Furlers are useful on larger yachts that have a cutter rig where the head sail and stay sail are both on furlers.

On yachts less than 40 ft in length I believe they are a hinderance to efficient sailing.

2 cents.


I agree in principal. But it all depends on how often you sail with a partially furled headsail. Fairly rarely in my case. I reef my main regularly but seldom furl the headsail. Mine is a radial cut, laminate sized about No2 and is good for breezes from 1 to 20. The convenience makes up for any in efficiency. My last yacht was a 26 foot quarter tonner. Headsail changes sailing solo was a pain.
cisco
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16 Feb 2015 9:34am

I guess with all things yachting one has to weigh up what works best for him and go that way. Whatever it is, usually it is some kind of compromise.

I still have not had much opportunity to get any real sailing in on my yacht so I will give the furler a fair trial before I take it off. Last time we were out I measured wind speed while still in the basin which is right at the river mouth and got 17 knots. By the time we up anchored, went along side to pick up guests and got out into the channel, it was blowing 27 knots.

I didn't put the main up and rolled the header out about two thirds. It is an oldish sail and a bit stretched and did not get a very good shape into it. For me it is mainly a question of economy.

I have three other head sails with hank luffs and we get wind variation here which is great enough to warrant use of all four head sails from a blade type working jib up to a very long footed light No. 1 genoa. Then I also have a Booster (asymmetrical kite???) with a wire luff and hanks.

It would have to be a lot more economical for me to take the furler off and get a hanked luff onto that sail than to set the other sails up for the furler.

The arm on the furler is a problem when anchoring or mooring as well plus the furling line clutters the stbd side as well.

When I get sailing next I will take some photos to post up.
samsturdy
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16 Feb 2015 11:21am
I have a furler on my 8.5m yacht. Very handy if sailing solo or like me you have a Missus that can only steer in circles (bless her). I find the furler to be very handy in my situation and if I didn't have one I would put one on.
Ramona
Ramona
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16 Feb 2015 11:49am
My headsail has a rope luff padding and that helps to flatten the sail with a few turns on it but performance upwind in fresh conditions is definitely lacking. Off the wind though its fine. I carry a No5 I can use if I ever get stuck somewhere and need to get home. I would never attempt to change at sea though.
jgb1787
jgb1787
WA
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16 Feb 2015 8:51am
samsturdy said..
I have a furler on my 8.5m yacht. Very handy if sailing solo or like me you have a Missus that can only steer in circles (bless her). I find the furler to be very handy in my situation and if I didn't have one I would put one on.


haha I also have a missus that im trying to introduce to sailing. Should everything go right we will step up to a bigger boat over the next year.I will also be more than likely sailing solo sometimes so thinking it may be a good idea.Everyone has there own opinions i guess and what works best for them. I guess it can hurt to try
MorningBird
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16 Feb 2015 12:59pm
My boat is a bit bigger and heavier than yours but the furler is one of the best things I have done. The Fleming wind vane is in the same league.

I can't agree with Cisco that it is over 40 ft boats that use furlers. Storage is short on smaller boats and if one sail that stays on deck can replace four sails you have a lot more space down below. Smaller boats also usually sail solo, even with others onboard they are often passengers. Furling the sail away when anchoring for lunch and not having to fold a sail on deck of a small boat when you want to get home at the end of the day makes sailing so much more pleasurable.

I had a new sail made, about a No2 size, with luff foam and can furl it down to less than half size and still point well. It holds its shape brilliantly. If you are racing and want the extra 1/4 kt a hanked on sail might be better but only if it is not too old and a good shape. You can maintain one headsail on a furler far cheaper than the four sails it replaces.

I have a Profurl C320 but on a boat your size you will get away cheaper and easier than I did.
LooseChange
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16 Feb 2015 1:44pm
That, MorningBird is a well reasoned argument and one which is difficult to refute.
HG02
HG02
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16 Feb 2015 10:28pm
I am considering the pro furl C290 seems to be in my measurement on the walker.
The advantage as you have said morning bird its a small yacht and room is very valuable so extra sails I don't want.
I have 7 sail bags here at home from the boat they take up every bit of room in the forward cabin

So to me $1300 or there abouts makes my boat larger in a way
sirgallivant
sirgallivant
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17 Feb 2015 2:50am
Ha ha . I got no missus but l got a twin foil on my furler which makes my life much easier. Changing sails is easier too, just bend it using the other halyard while the boat usually steers itself or use the autopilot.
Also l can run twin genoas goosewinged and get my main down out there. Not on the Harbour though.

Using it partially furled is also possible though not desirable because the furlers are not really able to keep their shape. The purists say NO to that but that is their problem. You could furl a larger sail - genoa or a higher cut Yankee, no worries. It might look like your washing but such is life. It is still going to take you to your destination and without hard work in the bargain.

Would not put it on the boat if l was going to race, but some biiig racing yachts use it with success.

Check out this cruiser, and tell how many furlers it has?!



Galatea
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17 Feb 2015 4:15pm
Www.furlings.com
good budget furlers
HG02
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17 Feb 2015 8:47pm
Galatea said..
Www.furlings.com
good budget furlers


My luff is 10.38 I dont know what the for-stay length is but I put in 11 meters 36 ft roughly the free quote came up $1630

The pro furl C290 to suit my boat Walker H28 $1300
MorningBird
MorningBird
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18 Feb 2015 12:04am
I am happy with my Profurl. Installed in 2010 and been an excellent investment. Havefun and I used it furled about half way in a minor gale and it held beautifully.
jgb1787
jgb1787
WA
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18 Feb 2015 9:15pm
Have decided to go with a Profurl C260 from whitworths, Shall update when i receive and install, Cheers Everyone for the information
HG02
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19 Feb 2015 12:25am
Looking forward to some photos and how you set it up
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