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MorningBird
MorningBird
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24 Jan 2013 4:27pm
Does anybody know if there are still moorings at Broughton Islands. I am planning on going up there tomorrow.
keithw
keithw
NSW
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24 Jan 2013 5:28pm

Hi John,

Martime map shows one courtesy mooring off providence beach.


www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/index.html
www.maritime.nsw.gov.au/docs/maps/portstepn_front.pdf
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
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24 Jan 2013 6:37pm
Thanks Keith. 15-20 noreasters for Saturday when we will be there so no good unfortunately. We might be able to use a private one in Esmerelda Cove if we are lucky.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
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25 Jan 2013 8:15am
MorningBird said...
Thanks Keith. 15-20 noreasters for Saturday when we will be there so no good unfortunately. We might be able to use a private one in Esmerelda Cove if we are lucky.




Apart from those pain in the arse NE forecast for the weekend we are now expecting heavy Easterly swells Sunday as Qld's weather moves South.
MorningBird
MorningBird
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25 Jan 2013 9:22am
Yes. I was planning on staying at Broughton Is on Sat night but looking at the winds for later on Sunday/Monday will probably do a night sail back on Saturday night to get back Sunday pm.
The forecast has chopped from nor easters to strong southerlies to nor easters to easters. Best to keep an eye on it.
Ramona
Ramona
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25 Jan 2013 6:17pm
Seabreeze has an entirely different take on the forecast compared to the Bom one. We are supposedly having a light NE here now according to Seabreeze, Bom is spot on as usual.
crustysailor
crustysailor
VIC
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26 Jan 2013 9:12am
why is SB weather so different from BOM?

it seems consistently to understimate wind strength by at least 5-10 knots, tonight BOM is 25knots, SB says its dropping off to under 10.

Jethrow
Jethrow
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26 Jan 2013 10:38pm
I'd say it's the BOM over-estimating the wind strength to cover themselves. 40% stronger in the gusts and all that...
Ramona
Ramona
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27 Jan 2013 8:40am
Tomorrow Bom has 45 knots NE forecast, Seabreeze just over 30. My money is on Bom. Even the live readings at the bottom of the page are well below what I am actually experiencing at the moment. If your planning an off shore adventure I would be consulting and comparing the other Wx sources.
MorningBird
MorningBird
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27 Jan 2013 3:45pm
We left Pittwater at 1300 on Friday and sailed up at 7 kts in a 15kt ENE wind. The track to Broughton Islands is 040 mag so as we got outside the wind went to??? 040 mag.
As it turned out Seabreeze was pretty close on Friday night. We had 20-25kts right on the nose. The sea was choppy but not too bad.
We could a heading and course of about 350/000 mag on starboard tack against about a 1 kt set close into the coast. We were doing about 5.5kts with a VMG of about 4 -4.5 kts towards Broughton Is.
However when we tacked out the best heading we could get was about 095/100 mag and with the set we were going south at a fair clip. We had a good boat speed of over 6 kts and a comfortable ride but course over the ground was closer to 130 mag.
At 2100 we had made good 24 nm to Broughton Islands, about 3 kts VMG, with 57 nm to go. At this rate we were going to get there late Saturday, after we would have to turn around to get back in time.
The wind then started picking up, quite unusual off the east coast when the sea breeeze should be dying off. We put in a reef and furled up some heady but she was still over canvassed and we couldn't point as high with the lump of sail on the forestay.
I had some dinner but at this point it wasn't fun anymore, my crew was suffering mal de mer, so I decided to go with the wind. We were back in Pittwater 3.5 hours later.
The return was the first time I have used the Fleming vane downwind. It handled the boat brilliantly holding a course 10 degrees off the wind with no hint of getting close to a gybe.
Spent two days in Pittwater drinking our alcohol supply.
My sister planned to meet me at Broughton Is but rang before departure to say she was going south instead as she has two weeks off and could wait for a better weather window. I didn't have the time available so headed north. As much as it pains me to say it, my kid sister made the right call.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
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27 Jan 2013 4:18pm
MorningBird said...
As much as it pains me to say it, my kid sister made the right call.


Sorry to have to be the one to say it, but even sisters can occasionally be right
Ramona
Ramona
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27 Jan 2013 6:29pm
MorningBird said...

The wind then started picking up, quite unusual off the east coast when the sea breeeze should be dying off. We put in a reef and furled up some heady but she was still over canvassed and we couldn't point as high with the lump of sail on the forestay.
pains me to say it, my kid sister made the right call.


Bom had the NE to blow late evening on Saturday night at 30 knots, and it did all night, dropping off to 25 knots at about 0900 Sunday. You certainly made the right call.
Driving down from Sydney this afternoon it was just a light Easterly but the swell is rising.

Spare a thought for the Queenslanders getting a hiding at the moment. Flooding rivers are giving people some concern. Couple of Poms on Yachting World forums this morning asking for the best position to anchor in Mary River. Rivers are already flooding and some yachts have been reported washing down rivers[TV reports!]
cisco
cisco
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28 Jan 2013 10:41am
^^^ Burnett River in Bundaberg is a disaster. A dozen or more vessels lost, Midtown Marina completely gone and one life lost. Rain has gone but more peak flooding to come. May surpass all records.

Have a look at BOM maps to see it is coming your way.

Latest word is that the relatively new Bundaberg Port Marina is coming apart and the Burnett Heads Marina is being held together with webbing straps and hope.

Utter some prayers please.
slainte
slainte
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28 Jan 2013 12:03pm
Hey Cisco, unbelievable the shots coming out of your area. Boats crashing into other boats and breaking moorings. How is your old girl doing on the hard, as we,ve had reports of major damage to most marina,s and slipways . Stay safe
Cheers
Ken
cisco
cisco
QLD
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29 Jan 2013 1:50pm
^^^Biggest danger in the yard has been boats being blown over. Imagine the domino effect of that. So far so good.

Wind and rain has gone but there is still a huge volume of water coming down from the catchment area.

I find the situation so sad for so many people that I have refused to take any photos or vid.

Not so for the rubber neck bogan bottom feeders.
drpete
drpete
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29 Jan 2013 2:31pm
Yeah I'm just on anchor at Redland Bay (37 ft Cat) and the Mono that anchor's next to me is in the mangroves (along with quite a few others). Mine didn't move. Were it not a violation of the laws of nature, I'd make that anchor my wife
Same at Victoria Point. My brother in law said there's boats and bits of boats all over the rocks there Many broke moorings. I feel less bad about being too tight to pay for a mooring and just leaving her on anchor nowadays......
Ramona
Ramona
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29 Jan 2013 8:15pm
Not sure where TV channels get their forecasts. At least in the case you quote, channel 10 as using knots, locally some use K/hour just to confuse people more.
southace
southace
SA
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29 Jan 2013 8:22pm
cisco said...
^^^Biggest danger in the yard has been boats being blown over. Imagine the domino effect of that. So far so good.

Wind and rain has gone but there is still a huge volume of water coming down from the catchment area.

I find the situation so sad for so many people that I have refused to take any photos or vid.

Not so for the rubber neck bogan bottom feeders.


Rumour has it around Cairns that your boat is safer on the hard stand than in the water.....I don't really understand how that works , I'm currently in bluewater marina it's the only marina from Cairns area to port douglas that allows you to keep your vessel moored if cyclone is forcast .
cisco
cisco
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29 Jan 2013 11:58pm
southace said...
Reading your comments about weather forecasts I tend to agree but lately even bom has been getting it wrong in places.



I rely on the barometric maps on BOM and make my own interpretations. I do read the coastal forecasts but I think BOM tends to err with overstatement in favour of caution most of the time.

With recent events on the Qld coast, which happened very quickly, I think BOM could have issued some earlier warnings along with the water management authorities re dam releases and expected water flows.

I don't like to knock BOM because it seems to be staffed by fairly dedicated people and their web site is fast and very clickable for the information you want.

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