Carmen 31

> 10 years ago
Reply
Register to post, see what you've read, and subscribe to topics.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
10 Sep 2013 9:36am
I know I keep bringing up eBay yachts but Jonathon has another ripper for sale.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Swanson-31ft-Carmen-100-fiberglass-production-yacht-full-keel-cruising-boat-N-R-/390657386576?pt=AU_Boats&hash=item5af4fea850
MattM14
MattM14
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
10 Sep 2013 1:37pm
WOW!! I have such a soft spot for these yachts. My old man had one for many years so I guess I really learnt to sail on a Carmen. This looks like a rather "modern" fiberglass example rather than the all wood hull I was used to. Fantastic to sail. And going for a song too.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
10 Sep 2013 6:28pm
MatM14 said..

WOW!! I have such a soft spot for these yachts. My old man had one for many years so I guess I really learnt to sail on a Carmen. This looks like a rather "modern" fiberglass example rather than the all wood hull I was used to. Fantastic to sail. And going for a song too.



That avatar looks suspiciously like a Swanson 32, you may be slightly biased.
Seamonkey_H2024
Seamonkey_H2024
VIC
344 posts
VIC, 344 posts
10 Sep 2013 8:37pm
I like the canoe stern. It would make mounting a windvane interesting I suspect. How would a stern like that affect reversing or rear buoyancy?
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
11 Sep 2013 12:34am
Unbelievable. Just the two primary winches would be worth $1,000.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
11 Sep 2013 8:38am
SirJman said..

I like the canoe stern. It would make mounting a windvane interesting I suspect. How would a stern like that affect reversing or rear buoyancy?




Easy to fit a windvane, check out the windvane web sites for photos of canoe stern yachts. The idea with canoe sterns was that they would be better as a sea boat running off in heavy seas, all canoe stern boats are long keel yachts. Long keel yachts don't reverse too well anyway.

The original Carmen won the Sydney Hobart race as I recall. The second smallest yacht to do so.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
11 Sep 2013 11:13am
cisco said..

Unbelievable. Just the two primary winches would be worth $1,000.


A clear case of the sum of the parts being worth than the whole.

Also is this not one of those boats that people are constantly being warned about, that is a cheap boat will end up costing you more than a reasonably priced boat in the first place?

MattM14
MattM14
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
11 Sep 2013 2:06pm
Ramona said..

MatM14 said..

WOW!! I have such a soft spot for these yachts. My old man had one for many years so I guess I really learnt to sail on a Carmen. This looks like a rather "modern" fiberglass example rather than the all wood hull I was used to. Fantastic to sail. And going for a song too.



That avatar looks suspiciously like a Swanson 32, you may be slightly biased.


Well spotted Ramona it is indeed a Swanson 32. When dad sold the Carmen he was "biased" enough himself to stay with a Swanson and went for the 32 as her replacement. Sadly, I don't think it ever lived up to his expectations after the Carmen and from my recollections of the two yachts I would tend to agree with him. Since dad passed away I generously agreed to make the sacrifice and take on looking after the yacht So I'm not complaining, can't see myself being in a position to buy a new one in this lifetime.

cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
11 Sep 2013 10:12pm
LooseChange said..

cisco said..

Unbelievable. Just the two primary winches would be worth $1,000.


A clear case of the sum of the parts being worth than the whole.

Also is this not one of those boats that people are constantly being warned about, that is a cheap boat will end up costing you more than a reasonably priced boat in the first place?



Yes!! That one is ready to go with a minimalist fit out and servicing of all the metal bits.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
12 Sep 2013 8:55am
The engine looks like a Volvo 7b. Fully reconditioned unit is about $2250. I could do a full interior fit out in maple and ply for $1000 including cushions. Allow $500 for a VHF and a laptop based nav system. $350 for an Epirb. Gaz stove $20. Batteries would be one of the more expensive items. Some careful shopping at op shops and recycling shops, perhaps some dumpster diving at that big yacht club in Rushcutters Bay.

All depends if it has some sails. I expect this boat will sell well. That Daydream Jonathon is selling as well is just screaming for a junk rig conversion. If only I wasn't so old,tired and lazy.
Please Register, or first...
Topics Subscribe Reply