Hey Topknot,

You probably need the "SSS Base Value" for stability. Internet search? Any other Carter 33 on the IRC data base? Manufacturer / designer...??

IRC & ORC are two rating (handicap) systems - Probably not compulsory. We are big fans of IRC.

I doubt you need DSC on your HF - Although it is handy, it is not widely supported here on the West Coast. HF unit does need licence, and someone must hold the radio licence.

I assume you have gone through all the myriad regulations in the Blue Book (RRS)...??

I hope this helps a bit ;-)

Poods

You will need to obtain an IRC certificate to get the stability index. NSWYA will do this. I don't think you can get the numbers from an old IOR cetificate which is what the boat probably has. There may be an IRC certificate for a Carter somewhere though. Where abouts are you? there is help availabe but easier if we know your location. The construction requirements could be harder though as the boat was constructed before the scantling requirements were in effect. I have no doubt the boat is strong enough to comply but having the little peice of paper might be harder. I'm not entirely sure but I think the HF requirement has been eased too...

Hey Topknot - How'd you get on with this...???

Correct - IRC & ORC are two measurment based rating systems (not a handicap) - Based on length, weight, sail area, hull shape, etc. Not mandatory, but necessary if you are a keen competitotr. PHS (Performance Handicap System??) is more locally based, and will use basic measuments (length, disp, sail area, etc), and then that will be adjusted in a range for your peformance & the type of race. You should get a PHS handicap for the race from the organising authority.

I'm not familiar with the Carter 33. Is it based on the old IOR 3/4 type of design...?? I used to own a UFO34 (similar to an S&S34) - very seaworthy boats. Was the Carter a local design? When were they built?? Has anyone ever had one certified to Cat 2 or cat 3 before? If you know the name of other Carter 33's, do some Google searches of race results to see if you can find another that has been certified.

Have you spoken with Yachting Australia? I assume you are affiliated with YA via your club, so put those fees to good use and see if they have any Carter 33's on record that have achieved cat 2

Failing all the above, you can get a Naval Artichoke to do the stablity & design reviews, but like you noted, that will be quite a few $$$

I trust this helps a bit

Poods

Poodle said...

Correct - IRC & ORC are two measurment based rating systems (not a handicap) - Based on length, weight, sail area, hull shape, etc. Not mandatory, but necessary if you are a keen competitotr. PHS (Performance Handicap System??) is more locally based, and will use basic measuments (length, disp, sail area, etc), and then that will be adjusted in a range for your peformance & the type of race. You should get a PHS handicap for the race from the organising authority.

I'm not familiar with the Carter 33. Is it based on the old IOR 3/4 type of design...?? I used to own a UFO34 (similar to an S&S34) - very seaworthy boats. Was the Carter a local design? When were they built?? Has anyone ever had one certified to Cat 2 or cat 3 before? If you know the name of other Carter 33's, do some Google searches of race results to see if you can find another that has been certified.

Have you spoken with Yachting Australia? I assume you are affiliated with YA via your club, so put those fees to good use and see if they have any Carter 33's on record that have achieved cat 2

Failing all the above, you can get a Naval Artichoke to do the stablity & design reviews, but like you noted, that will be quite a few $$$

I trust this helps a bit

Poods

Probably more Carter 33's sailed in Hobart races that SS34's in the seventies. I'm fairly confident they are not the same as the 3/4 tonner but plenty of info should be on www.boatdesign.net/forums/ The Australian versions with the aft cockpit had a more race oriented layout than the European version by Olympic built in Greece. Nice boats apparently, more stable downwind than an SS34.