Cockpit Autopilots

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keensailor
keensailor
NSW
702 posts
NSW, 702 posts
17 Dec 2015 8:03pm
has any one had much experience with something like the Raymarine ST1000

just wondered how it would go in 15+ knots on a 27 foot yacht
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
2711 posts
NSW, 2711 posts
17 Dec 2015 8:58pm
I have a Simrad TP32 on a 6.5 tonne S&S34. It works very well in over 30kts and commensurate sea states.
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
880 posts
QLD, 880 posts
17 Dec 2015 8:18pm
Simple answer ..not for long...
My boat came with ST1000, boat is smaller but if I pushing hard
my tiller is exhausting exercise. Upgraded to ST 2000 no problem there.
Guess it comes down how the rudder is balanced.
I used to sail 32 footer and tiller was just perfect.
I can only recommend ST 2000, you need extra torque.
sunycoastguy
sunycoastguy
QLD
224 posts
QLD, 224 posts
17 Dec 2015 8:29pm
Hi I have the ST2000 and very happy with it, if you can afford to go for the ST2000 I would, it steers nearly twice as quick
BlueMoon
BlueMoon
866 posts
866 posts
17 Dec 2015 7:42pm
Another vote for the st2000.
They are handy, but they aren't "set & forget", you have to treat them like the fragile piece of kit, that they are.
Don't let them work too hard (in strong winds & choppy sea state) for too long.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
18 Dec 2015 2:11am

Having experienced the performance of the Simrad TP 32 on MorningBird, getting dropped and bumped around and still working well when needed, I don't think you could buy better.

The Raymarine has an LCD display but I do not think nearly as ruggedly built.
slammin
slammin
QLD
998 posts
QLD, 998 posts
18 Dec 2015 6:02am
St1000 here, 26ft 2t. Fairly well balanced but not perfect due to the transom hung rudder. It has always performed well.

There are many in use on another website for similarly sized boats without problem.

THAT IS as long as you don't get either model 1000 or 2000 wet with spray or rain. In collects at the electrical compass and then zilcho. The other issue is they have no bump stop so if they are hard helming at full lock then they overheat frying the wiring.

I have a waterproof sock to keep mine dry and out of the sun. Grey isn't a friendly colour in the tropics... As for overheating. If you're steering at full lock then you need to balance your boat or put a reef in. Ideally the autopilot should have bump stops but more ideally you should be sailing not scrabbling along.

In my research the Simrad has scored more negative reviews, FWIW YMMV.

I have also got a wireless key fob so can activate and deactivate and change course from anywhere on the boat. Now that is a real autopilot. they are available from madmanmarine. V happy customer of both items.
madmission
madmission
VIC
234 posts
VIC, 234 posts
18 Dec 2015 8:24am
I echo slammin's post
Great on well balanced boats , expensive on pigs

I have used mine 95 % of my sailing on this boat over past 9 years and logged many miles
Also have made many repairs , mainly due to water ingress and its effect on the electrical circuits

More recently replaced the 2 drive belts which were worn out so cheap i bought a spare set

I also recommend the madman remote for value

My recommendation is pay a little extra and get the ST2000
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
2679 posts
QLD, 2679 posts
18 Dec 2015 8:19pm
I have the Raymarine Evo 100 tiller on a 26'. Transom hung rudder also, it steers well but needs to be on high setting running in seas under kite.
I was surprised to find they use a ST4000 drive, as the 100 is the smallest autohelm in this range, I expected it to be a 1000. The 2k and 4k are the same worm drive and it sure steers and tacks responsively enough!
Jolene
Jolene
WA
1624 posts
WA, 1624 posts
18 Dec 2015 7:27pm
If you end up with a wind vane, you can use a tiller pilot to control it too , a ST1000 would work fine onto the vane but may struggle on the tiller especially down wind, following sea. The tiller pilot to the vane set up also has problems when motoring because of the prop wash on the servo oar. I have a ST4000 on a 5.5 ton 10m boat and sometimes I reckon its too light.
keensailor
keensailor
NSW
702 posts
NSW, 702 posts
19 Dec 2015 6:34am
Thanks for the comments.
Our boat is a Northshore 27 with a transom hung rudder. You need to reef in anything over 18 knots otherwise it has a lot of weather helm. I still think it would work well as long as conditions are not too extreme.
Need to be conscious of power consumption with a 40W solar panel and a 105Ah AGM.
madmission
madmission
VIC
234 posts
VIC, 234 posts
19 Dec 2015 7:01am
keensailor
Yes your power setup will limit your use i feel
also beware of voltage drop if wiring one in as they do draw some current when working hard
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