VIC
79 posts
okay i do a bit of both delivering , i just volunteer helping out in my spare time .
In my day job i work offshore ,took a few years to get the qualifications , but now living the dream .
Heart is still in yachting,dont enjoy the comment from arm chair sailors regarding sailing a yacht back from a race.
I enjoy yachting and make myself available to help out in delivering
After 40 years yachting just enjoying helping out delivering rather than racing !! eating freeze died ,sitting on a rail , getting abused by a pre meda -dona sailing master hot shot ,****ing in a bucket, cutting the toothbrush in half,all in the need for speed and all that bull****
Unfortunatly as a crew with delivering we all have a time factor , it is not a bottomless pit of time and money, at the age where i don't need to rush, But time waits for no one,just like the weather , unfortunately in the life we live there are demands , but as skipper we have to make the call between demands and good seamanship.
Thankfully i am crew and not led my the almighty dollar and time
A cruising boat can safely coast hop or anchor at their discretion,unfortunately race boats do'nt have that pleasure with anchoring mainly because it takes 3-5 mtrs draught, normally for racing yachts they sail non stop.
Cruisers it is a short hop with multiple stops .
Race boats have minimum anchor chain, fuel, draught, water, bigger wheels or wider bums , no auto helm !,they are not set up for cruising,just get home asap.
Delivering a race boat is different from a cruiser
Normally freeze dried food.
No beer
Lot more volatile and jerky in a sea way compared to the heavy displacement motion
Modern boats have wide transoms .
No ****ter,
A bit wetter less protection.
No roller reeefing,lazy jacks.
In a big sea you have to slow them dowm
Sailing control systems are a bit complicated, mast is fragile
anchoring is a night mare
A hoot sailing aft abeam
Yes they have better internet weather routing information
Most race boats above 40ft draw 2.8mtr perhaps 5mtrs,Minimum of chain ,no windless to haul it up
As some one who has done a lot of race boat deliveries its a restless night anchor watch i would prefer to keep going .
Could you imagine if camanchie or wild oats neended to seek shelter vey few places haves 5-6meter draught other than standard ports
But saying that they have the experienced Volvo professional yachtsman on board,plus the speed to avoid the weather system
I haven't done a poll on regarding cruisers vs yachtsman in the certification /qualification
any one can buy yacht but if you get paid it is a work place.
Practically if the skippers ( boat niggers) havent a yachtmasters/ coxswain/Master V it becomes a grey area because its commercial workplace wages involved it is a work place
At this stage if you are getting paid it is a job under OH&S nightmares ,Maritime safety ,plus insurance.
Have Filled out a risk assessment ,JSea,take 5, seriously these govt dudes have no idea!!!!
If you ask a mate to help deliver your yacht is he the delivery skipper takes all responsibility and not being paid
who is responsible if the yacht has a problem !!!
Who knows what the outcome will be with the disaster of the past few nights from coffs
If you work commercial and somethings goes wrong there are multiple govt agencies after your butt, if it is helping a mate out it is an insurance nightmare, i cannot imagine if a life was lost.
We all love our sailing but are we prepared if the **** hits the fan.!!!!!
Sail safely
NSW
1000 posts
Well said from someone who has actual experience nit talking through their arse.
866 posts
Yeah, good insight spiggie.
Don't think I would be a good race boat delivery crew, too cautious.
Is there any regard for equipment, sails, rigging etc when doing a delivery, from the delivery crew?. Or the owners just accept all breakages as part of the process of a delivery at all costs?
cheers
NSW
7757 posts
On the South coast here I have had plenty of encounters and one serious near miss with Sydney Hobart boats returning to Sydney. They are invariably motor sailing usually with just a mainsail or just a headsail. Years ago when droplining they would alter course and wander pass to say g'day. They always looked unseaworthy to me!
NSW
42 posts
Like your post spiggie...I did a bit of racing in the british channels putting up with lousy skippers that threw a lot of abuse but not much leadership to clock up some miles for bits of paper that would say I could sail until that lightglobe sparked up and I realised I'd just rather sail and not put up with ****e lol....as to racing its my firm opinion that its just like brit football..those with most money win...(with all due respect where appropriate)
QLD
12365 posts
The best vessel masters I have worked with have invariably been quiet spoken people, self confident with not an ounce of egotism about them.
