Deck organizer sheaves

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dmarco
dmarco
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
23 Feb 2017 1:13pm
Hi,
The deck organizer sheaves in my circa 1987 Spacesailer 27 have succumbed to the ravages of UV.
I've removed the fitting and naturally there is no brand on it. Possibly the sheaves are not original.
I've looked online at Ronstan et al but cannot find a match for the sheaves as yet.
The size is ID 11mm, OD 48mm and width 19mm, with the exception of the ID I thing the other sizes are flexible to some extent.
maybe someone knows what brand they are that I can follow up. Ronstan do have 11mm ID but with 60 OD, they may have to do!
I could fit new organizers but was trying to avoid drilling more holes if I can as I dare say new ones won't match the existing mounting holes.

Thanks


Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
24 Feb 2017 8:31am
It's annoying how these sorts of spares are no longer readily available. I need a few myself. I think the only guaranteed way to get exact replicas is to buy some Delrin rod and turn up a few on a lathe.
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
24 Feb 2017 9:20am
These are old Ronstan ones and it looks like they no longer make. The biggest issue is any replacement they now do is not wide (width of sheave standing up) enough and the rope can run off the sheave.

What is the hole spacings between sheaves? Might be worth looking at new ones?

Alternately contact Allyacht spars and they can make you new sheaves, probably about $20 each!!!
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
24 Feb 2017 9:29am
Maybe a 3D printer could nock a few out ?
Jode5
Jode5
QLD
853 posts
QLD, 853 posts
24 Feb 2017 10:41am
Have a look at Spinlock and see what they have in their range.
Trek
Trek
NSW
1215 posts
NSW, 1215 posts
24 Feb 2017 12:26pm
SandS said..
Maybe a 3D printer could nock a few out ?



A 3D printer could do that and Ive got a few. Problem is the build material is either ABS which is soft or resin which is much harder but would crack as soon as a bit of pressure got put on it.
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
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dmarco
dmarco
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
24 Feb 2017 10:24am
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the input and you have confirmed my suspicions and its about what I expected.
I'll look at new ones and see how I go and I may try a the one Ronstan sheave that will fit but is much bigger in diameter.
If all else fails I'll either have to fit and drill more holes or have some sheaves made.

Ahh the joys of older boats!

Thanks again and really great to have the AllYachtSpars info.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
24 Feb 2017 5:57pm
dmarco said..
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the input and you have confirmed my suspicions and its about what I expected.
I'll look at new ones and see how I go and I may try a the one Ronstan sheave that will fit but is much bigger in diameter.
If all else fails I'll either have to fit and drill more holes or have some sheaves made.

Ahh the joys of older boats!

Thanks again and really great to have the AllYachtSpars info.


Just buy Delrin and find some pensioner with a lathe. I have a lathe but I have made sheaves previously using an electric drill in a vice. Delrin is particularly pleasant to work on a lathe. There is bound to be some old bloke in your area busting for a project for his lathe.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/20mm-Dia-White-Acetal-Rod-Delrin-Engineering-Plastic-Bearing-Gear-Bushing-/252413990246?hash=item3ac50bd566:g:DOIAAOSwMmBV7BNu
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
24 Feb 2017 6:44pm
Trek said..

SandS said..
Maybe a 3D printer could nock a few out ?




A 3D printer could do that and Ive got a few. Problem is the build material is either ABS which is soft or resin which is much harder but would crack as soon as a bit of pressure got put on it.


Can't you buy all sorts of rod to feed into them .... Some one said they had carbon reels of material ..would that be any good ?
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve
QLD
2195 posts
QLD, 2195 posts
24 Feb 2017 6:09pm
Whitworths sell the wheels. Theyre cheap. Theyd work??
dmarco
dmarco
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
24 Feb 2017 4:44pm
Hi Sectorsteve,
I think you are referring to the Ronstan ID 11.4, OD 60, x 19width. These may fit and may have to do though they would stick out each side by 5mm. This may not matter and if I pursue this further I'll have a fiddle with it make sure nothing is going to jam etc. Leaning towards getting new ones as ideally I need to run another line and with new I could get a 4 and stack a 2 on top and have a spare. Anyway exploring options and thanks for your interest.
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve
QLD
2195 posts
QLD, 2195 posts
24 Feb 2017 7:36pm
I bought the black ronstan ones. They look smart and work well. $58 for double sheave. Come to think of it it could be hard to get the wheels to work as youd need some kinda clevis pin that suits
Jolene
Jolene
WA
1624 posts
WA, 1624 posts
24 Feb 2017 6:49pm
Get a machinist to spin them up in a lathe out of suitable material in less than 10 mins.,,, easy job
dmarco
dmarco
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
24 Feb 2017 10:19pm
Sectorsteve said..
I bought the black ronstan ones. They look smart and work well. $58 for double sheave. Come to think of it it could be hard to get the wheels to work as youd need some kinda clevis pin that suits



Good to hear they are working for you. My original ones were mounted at a slight angle using a wedge shaped piece of teak underneath to improve the entry angle for the ropes coming off the mast blocks. That's ok but unless there is a matching wedge under the nuts it tends to bend the bolts. I guess most people don't worry about it but I think I'll use a flat bar spacer which will achieve the same thing, provided it doesn't have to be too high. Need to have a good look at the line angles, nothing is ever easy! The Ronstan wheels would work with what I've got except they are a bit narrow and smaller line can and does get stuck down the side of sheaves as happens on the Beneteau F35 I crew on. FYI I had a look today and it uses two stacks of 3 Spinlocks on a raised section of cabin roof to better match the line entry angle.

Thanks for your interest.
Crusoe
Crusoe
QLD
1197 posts
QLD, 1197 posts
25 Feb 2017 9:03pm
dmarco said..
Hi,
The deck organizer sheaves in my circa 1987 Spacesailer 27 have succumbed to the ravages of UV.
I've removed the fitting and naturally there is no brand on it. Possibly the sheaves are not original.
I've looked online at Ronstan et al but cannot find a match for the sheaves as yet.
The size is ID 11mm, OD 48mm and width 19mm, with the exception of the ID I thing the other sizes are flexible to some extent.
maybe someone knows what brand they are that I can follow up. Ronstan do have 11mm ID but with 60 OD, they may have to do!
I could fit new organizers but was trying to avoid drilling more holes if I can as I dare say new ones won't match the existing mounting holes.

Thanks




Yeah dmarco, had the same ones on my boat. It's not just the shelves but also the small inserts that the bolts pass though that need replacing. Ended up buying new sheaves and mounting them on a bit of teak to cover up the original holes and then put polished S/Steel (home made) backing plates inside to cover the holes there as well.

I did a lot of looking to see if there was another manufactured that had sheaves with the same hole centres but no luck.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
26 Feb 2017 8:30am
The Ronstan sheaves are available, it's just hard to find someone that will sell them in Australia. They can be bought from NZ and some sites in the USA.

www.ronstan.com/marine/range.asp?RnID=032
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