Diesel Heat Exchanger - testing with a non standar

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Dartboard
Dartboard
NSW
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6 Nov 2015 8:59pm
Hi,

I recently bought a boat which has a Sole Mini-10 10HP diesel on board. I couldn't test the engine at the time I purchased it. It's now been to the mechanic and they advised the heat exchanger is heavily corroded due to the coolant not being changed for a very long time. They got it started but recommended not trying to fix the engine as a new heat exchanger would be about $3000 and by the time it was all installed and the engine serviced the cost would be about $6000 and therefore I'd be better off getting a new engine. They also mentioned the head and oil coolers might have suffered too.

I'm wondering if I could fit some kind of cheap non-standard heat exchanger that is not expensive to test whether the engine may worth saving? Otherwise if anyone has any ideas on getting an engine in the boat without significant expense. I've considered fitting an outboard but the mechanic also advised I'd probably be disappointed . It's a Roberts 25.


HG02
HG02
VIC
5814 posts
VIC, 5814 posts
6 Nov 2015 9:57pm
You could try Mark at Luxford marine in Mornington Vic nice bloke
luxfords.com.au/



Krusty
Krusty
NSW
441 posts
NSW, 441 posts
7 Nov 2015 8:20am
It would seem to me if your engine has good compression and no other really obvious issues then there would be no need to go through the hassle of replacing it. Generally speaking always compression test an engine before you waste money on other stuff, if it's within spec just get the heat exchanger.
I may be wrong but it sounds like " your cars radiator is corroded so you need a new engine?", fill me in here if I'm wrong but I couldn't imagine a heat exchanger would be 6k fitted to a little 10hp motor?
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
7 Nov 2015 8:23am
Dartboard said..
Hi,

I recently bought a boat which has a Sole Mini-10 10HP diesel on board. I couldn't test the engine at the time I purchased it. It's now been to the mechanic and they advised the heat exchanger is heavily corroded due to the coolant not being changed for a very long time. They got it started but recommended not trying to fix the engine as a new heat exchanger would be about $3000 and by the time it was all installed and the engine serviced the cost would be about $6000 and therefore I'd be better off getting a new engine. They also mentioned the head and oil coolers might have suffered too.

I'm wondering if I could fit some kind of cheap non-standard heat exchanger that is not expensive to test whether the engine may worth saving? Otherwise if anyone has any ideas on getting an engine in the boat without significant expense. I've considered fitting an outboard but the mechanic also advised I'd probably be disappointed . It's a Roberts 25.




I think I would start with a new mechanic.

Fresh water cooled 10hp diesel would certainly be worth saving. Separate heat exchanger is another option. Manufacture one is another. The other option is to shop on eBay for another diesel but this will entail a fair bit of engineering and would probably be a salt water cooled unit. Also consider converting to a keel cooler.

I would remove the engine from the vessel and pull it down and repair as you go. Is this a trailer sailor Roberts 25?
HG02
HG02
VIC
5814 posts
VIC, 5814 posts
7 Nov 2015 4:14pm
HG02 said..
You could try Mark at Luxford marine in Mornington Vic nice bloke
luxfords.com.au/





As Ramona said a keel cooler could be made up
I should have explained probably Mark sell a couple of different brands of heat exchange's
Or as Ramona said a keel cooled could be made cheaply
If the motor started it would appear to have compression so it may be only a few minor things to make it reliable.
Id find a few different opinions as far as the motor condition go .
Maybe if you got your hands a little dirty you could learn a few things plus you get to know your boat .
iIll have a look on the net for a engine manual


boatdiesel.com/Engines/Sole/Sole.cfm
half way down the page is data for the sole 10 you need to register to down load it reg is free
Trek
Trek
NSW
1215 posts
NSW, 1215 posts
8 Nov 2015 1:06pm


My first reaction would be $3000!!!! rubbish.

It would seem the mechanic is relying on your lack of diesel engine knowledge to sting you.

Unless its a weird engine with strange heat exchanger theres nothing special about them.

I would

1. Find another mechanic (as correctly advised above)
2 Look for a replacement heat exchanger on the net (boatparts.com etc)
3. If no go, look for one that can be adapted. ie. Look at the mating of the inlet and outlet pipes.
4. Consider dumping the heat exchanger completely and using salt water in and out. Not an ideal solution but better than throwing out a good motor. You could get years from it.

Theres more sharks in the Australian marine industry than in the Pacific.
HG02
HG02
VIC
5814 posts
VIC, 5814 posts
8 Nov 2015 4:27pm
Trek said..


My first reaction would be $3000!!!! rubbish.

It would seem the mechanic is relying on your lack of diesel engine knowledge to sting you.

Unless its a weird engine with strange heat exchanger theres nothing special about them.

I would

1. Find another mechanic (as correctly advised above)
2 Look for a replacement heat exchanger on the net (boatparts.com etc)
3. If no go, look for one that can be adapted. ie. Look at the mating of the inlet and outlet pipes.
4. Consider dumping the heat exchanger completely and using salt water in and out. Not an ideal solution but better than throwing out a good motor. You could get years from it.

Theres more sharks in the Australian marine industry than in the Pacific.


Theres more sharks in the Australian marine industry than in the Pacific.
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