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BENNYP
BENNYP
QLD
32 posts
QLD, 32 posts
10 Jul 2011 9:47pm
Is it a stupid idea to convert my 25 Roberts from using an auxiliary outboard to a inboard and is it very exPensive any ideas
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
11 Jul 2011 12:52pm
I think you should stick with the outboard for that boat. Installing an inboard CAN be very expensive and very complicated.
MichaelR
MichaelR
NSW
862 posts
NSW, 862 posts
11 Jul 2011 1:15pm
Benny, I'd have to agree with Cisco.

I looked into it for my Top Hat 25. It was going to cost upwards of $10k, and that was more than what I paid for the boat.

We have an 8HP Tohatsu 4 stroke on a lifting bracket over the stern, and whilst its a little less easy to start, and lift up and down, it returns that by being easier to service. It's also easier to manouvre to a jetty, because Top Hat's don't steer backwards , unless you use the outboard to turn.

Better off spending your money on a good solid rig and some good safety gear.

Of course, this is free information, so please take it for what it is worth....

Michael
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
880 posts
QLD, 880 posts
11 Jul 2011 2:48pm
I know people to sail round the world with 4hp outboard. There is nice diesel Sail-Drive
and compact too. I think Yanmar had one. But, personally I am now happy with 9.9 Yamaha 4stoke, remote, elect. start and charge bat. too. Last trip 2 week ago, 13 hours motoring 35l petrol on 5.5 knots boat has 2.2 t. I inquired about new Yam.
15hp / 4str. I was surprise how cheap you can get them.
BENNYP
BENNYP
QLD
32 posts
QLD, 32 posts
11 Jul 2011 9:07pm
i have a 9.9 merc on there at the moment but it is very old and unreliable, last weekend it broke down and it took us 4 hours extra to sail home then only due to a bit of luck we were able to actually use the rudder to get back to our mooring, do you think it would make any differences between the 9,9 and the 15hp,
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
12 Jul 2011 2:08am
You could probably get away with a 5 hp Mariner/Mercury 2 stroke on the back of your boat but it needs to be a long shaft model with a short pitch propeller.

I had a 4hp Mariner 2 stroke on the back of my 23 ft Windrush Wildfire (about 950 kg displacement) and it would scoot it along at 7 knots in smooth water.

However, it was a short shaft with a large prop pitch more suited to a tinnie so what would happen in a chop is the prop would come out of the water, the engine would rev it's tits off, lose suction of the cooling water and near burn out the cooling water impeller.

Also because of the propeller pitch, the engine was never able to reach optimal rpm and fuel efficiency.

The 4 and 5 hp Mariner/Mercury 2 stroke engines are single cylinder engines which are really simple and in reality are just updates of the Seagull Outboard Engine which are legendary for their longevity.

For the information of some of the younger folk here who through lack of detail or intentional disinformation in their historical education, I relate the following.

The Seagull Outboard Engine is an innovation that was driven by wartime demands.

In World WarII the British Expeditionary Forces were stranded on the shallow beach of Dunkirk. They had to be rescued.

The War Department went to the boffins (tech blokes) and said "Design and build us an engine that will take a 30 ft barge across the English Channel and back and do it in the next few weeks."

The result was the "British Seagull Outboard Engine", still going strong 76 years later.
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
880 posts
QLD, 880 posts
12 Jul 2011 8:44am
Bennyp, you asking 9.9 or 15, I was hoping 1 knot, but that's my guess. Just listen this, I was getting new prop. for 9.9 Yamaha direct from dealer. Of course ask for "heavy displacement prop.", guess what guys, no such a thing. Is it only Yamaha or become common these days?
BENNYP
BENNYP
QLD
32 posts
QLD, 32 posts
12 Jul 2011 6:58pm
thanks guys you have been a great help
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