Environmentally Friendly Moorings

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MattM14
MattM14
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
29 Sep 2016 12:29pm
I received a notice from RMS recently encouraging me to switch my conventional mooring to an "Environmentally friendly mooring like this
http://hunter.lls.nsw.gov.au/our-region/projects-and-programs/environmentally-friendly-moorings-project

As an incentive the letter invites me to apply for a rebate to the value of 50% of the cost of the new mooring apparatus. That is probably not a bad deal considering the cost could be up to $3,300 to make the change. I'm supportive of the environmental concerns that this initiative is trying to address though the out of pocket cost is still a lot of coin that could easily be allocated to other things.

Does anybody have first hand experience of these types of moorings? The demo video on the website suggests that they will perform better than the conventional mooring.

The offer of the rebate suggests to me that this is the way RMS is heading and it is probably only a matter of time before they say that conventional moorings are no longer allowed at all and need to be replaced with one of these new types. But has anybody herd anything definite along these lines? What about timeframe?
twodogs1969
twodogs1969
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
29 Sep 2016 1:44pm
That is not really a true life test.
they take up the strain slow and steady. In a real life situation its not a constant pull the pressure is in bursts and and wave pressure it also comes from different directions.
might be a good thing but would prefer it was someone else's till I was convinced.
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
29 Sep 2016 1:57pm
Hey,

I am a supplier of Black Snake mooring strops which are a nylon core (straight yarns, not braided) covered with thick rubber and premade thimble eyes. Black Snakes won't untwist or wear, they are getting over 5 years in commercial use in Bass Straight

They are using them alot in Port Phillip with large contrete moorings or what is shown above (eco mooring) and they are having a big result in brigning seagrass back.
Yara
Yara
NSW
1322 posts
NSW, 1322 posts
29 Sep 2016 9:03pm
rumblefish said..
Hey,

I am a supplier of Black Snake mooring strops which are a nylon core (straight yarns, not braided) covered with thick rubber and premade thimble eyes. Black Snakes won't untwist or wear, they are getting over 5 years in commercial use in Bass Straight

They are using them alot in Port Phillip with large contrete moorings or what is shown above (eco mooring) and they are having a big result in brigning seagrass back.


I think large block and elastic floating warp is the only way to go. The screw mooring is fatally flawed-corrosion can occur under the mud and there is no way of knowing without unscrewing. And how do you do that?
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
30 Sep 2016 8:47am
Jervis Bay is a national park and all new moorings are supposed to be the screw type though I know conventional moorings are still going in. The greater expense comes from the fact that a minimum of two divers is required to actually screw these items into the bottom versus a single operator and a barge staying dry installing conventional moorings. Owners can also install their own conventional moorings. I can see there being value in these moorings in a seagrass bed but there are a hell of a lot of moorings not in seagrass beds. I bet the conventional moorings shown in the video being dragged had just been dropped and not had time to sink into the mud or sand. Not much point comparing concrete blocks with train or tram wheel moorings. The moorings where I moor are on a clean hard sand bottom and after a few weeks the tram wheels sink down a few inches and become very difficult to lift let alone pull sideways. The moorings also create a home for several fish species that would not be on that barren sand bottom normally. The photos of all those moorings with bare patches of seagrasses may be distressing for some people but the clear patches also suit a lot of marine species. Really there are not that many moorings on seagrass when you consider the total seagrass beds.

I like the look of the Black snake mooring strop. I use a similar set up but with just 3 strand nylon with the wear section covered in fire hose. I still have a few feet of heavy chain on the bottom that often does not move for a few days. The galvanized thimble or SS seem to be the weak spot and probably the only thing limiting the life. I think there must be a better material, non metal, to handle the abrasion there. I'm trialing boat roller polypropylene turned up as a thimble in mine to handle the wear from the shackle connection at the moment.
Bruski068
Bruski068
VIC
457 posts
VIC, 457 posts
30 Sep 2016 9:34am
I really hate how these reports leave out information for eg. : The Department of Primary Industries recently completed a report on estimating losses of Posidonia australis due to boat moorings in Lake Macquarie, Port Stephens and Wallis Lake. The report estimated that over seven hectares of Posidonia seagrass had been lost through damage to moorings. Well that's fair enough but, seven hectares out of how many hectares, what scientific basis does the estimation process (or wild arsed guesses) have, and who actually undertook the study, was it the Dept. of primary industries itself or was it someone else.
scruzin
scruzin
SA
564 posts
SA, 564 posts
30 Sep 2016 6:56pm
I have no firsthand experience, but Sea Grass Friendly Moorings look very good:

www.seagrassmooring.com.au/
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