Expired Flares Disposal

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BlueMoon
BlueMoon
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866 posts
8 Jan 2017 8:34am
I just had a heads up from NSWsailor about the RMS doing an expired flare collection along the NSW coast.
www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/safety-rules/safety-equipment/flare-disposal.html

I probably should finally get rid of the piles of old flares I have, some dating back to 1979
lydia
lydia
1937 posts
1937 posts
8 Jan 2017 6:02pm
1979. Faaaarck get someone to collect them.
seriously
nswsailor
nswsailor
NSW
1458 posts
NSW, 1458 posts
9 Jan 2017 12:28pm
Just a note... the RMS site also said that flares will NOT be taken at NSW Service Centres, RMS or waterways offices,

but I heard a RMS rep say on the radio that only they are authorised to take expired flares.

Figure that!
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve
QLD
2195 posts
QLD, 2195 posts
9 Jan 2017 11:42am
Cant we let em off on nye?
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
9 Jan 2017 9:46am
Sectorsteve said..
Cant we let em off on nye?


only illegal if you get caught!
HG02
HG02
VIC
5814 posts
VIC, 5814 posts
9 Jan 2017 6:46pm
felixdcat said..

Sectorsteve said..
Cant we let em off on nye?



only illegal if you get caught!


you're a very bad cat Felix
Jolene
Jolene
WA
1624 posts
WA, 1624 posts
9 Jan 2017 4:18pm
Why is it illegal?? What law are you breaking?
I'm to the opinion its like a gun, Just depends on where, when and how you fire it to whether you break the law..
GKandCC
GKandCC
NSW
218 posts
NSW, 218 posts
9 Jan 2017 9:11pm
Sectorsteve said..
Cant we let em off on nye?


Felix are you looking to keep them until NYE 2017? NYE 2016 was about 1.5 weeks ago or haven't you sobered up yet? ... Did you mean the next night of celebration…Australia Day? Does Australia have too many holidays/long weekends in too short a time?…'Heads-down'…Incoming!!!
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
880 posts
QLD, 880 posts
9 Jan 2017 9:10pm
Coast Guards colecting expired flares and EPIRBs, in Queensland. EPIRB can be disposed through household rubbish
providing, it is de - activated, internal battery disconnected. EPIRB don't have LiPo or LiFe batteries, don't need special disposal .
wouldn't know how the other states handle disposal.
Also clubs or coast guard can arrange training day and dozens of flares can be fired. / time frame limit /.
thats what we did.
shoodbegood
shoodbegood
VIC
873 posts
VIC, 873 posts
9 Jan 2017 10:31pm

We used to let them off on the last race of the winter series, maybe the first, can't remember!

Good for crew to actually let one go and see how they work
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
10 Jan 2017 12:25am
BlueMoon said..
I just had a heads up from NSWsailor about the RMS doing an expired flare collection along the NSW coast.
www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/safety-rules/safety-equipment/flare-disposal.html

I probably should finally get rid of the piles of old flares I have, some dating back to 1979


Why waste the money you have spent on them?? Set them off in your back yard as a training exercise and teach some local kids about pyrotechnics safety.
lydia
lydia
1937 posts
1937 posts
10 Jan 2017 6:58am
There is some really dum **** on this thread.
By there very nature the contents of a flare are unstable.
Expired flares should never be used ever.
Three recent examples.
The student at a training day firing an expired parachute flare in correct manner where upon ignition it fired backwards blowing the detonator and part of the phororous flare into his stomach. When the company was sued the answer was it was out of date so no responsibility.
The flare demonstration with expired red flare that fired out the side of the tube when ignited.
Lastly the flare that fired itself while been handled by the instructor in a classroom and set fire to the ceiling.
Be careful people.
Jolene
Jolene
WA
1624 posts
WA, 1624 posts
10 Jan 2017 7:37am
lydia said..
There is some really dum **** on this thread.
By there very nature the contents of a flare are unstable.
Expired flares should never be used ever.
Three recent examples.
The student at a training day firing an expired parachute flare in correct manner where upon ignition it fired backwards blowing the detonator and part of the phororous flare into his stomach. When the company was sued the answer was it was out of date so no responsibility.
The flare demonstration with expired red flare that fired out the side of the tube when ignited.
Lastly the flare that fired itself while been handled by the instructor in a classroom and set fire to the ceiling.
Be careful people.

And none of that would have happend with a brand new flare???
There is risk when handling and using any pyro/propellant or explosive device .
There is also a difference between using them and setting them off.

I do find it hard to believe that they use old flares in demonstrations
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
10 Jan 2017 9:04am
I do not have any expired ones.................... they all went with my last yacht (made the buyer aware) he said he was going to set them up in Albany WA some time???? I have a brand new set on my yacht now, too expensive to set at OZ day
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