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badinfluence
badinfluence
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1 Aug 2010 9:32pm
Hi there

does anyone have any knowledge/experience of visiting the Fairfax Islands.

Especially where and how to get into the lagoon??

We're a cat, drawing less than a metre.

Alan Lucas does not cover these islands at all,,,haven't had a look at Noel Patrick's Curtis Coast guide yet.

thanks
Trace
badinfluence
badinfluence
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QLD, 538 posts
2 Aug 2010 10:18pm
just bumpin
garyk
garyk
QLD
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QLD, 277 posts
4 Aug 2010 7:21pm
Noel Patrick covers all the details!
badinfluence
badinfluence
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QLD, 538 posts
5 Aug 2010 8:52pm
Thanks garyk

have just ordered a copy..........was told by our local chandler that it was out of print.

Cheers
Trace
badinfluence
badinfluence
QLD
538 posts
QLD, 538 posts
6 Aug 2010 7:30pm
Hi Cisco

very sound advice there.........I appreciate it.

We're heading off beginning September and hope to get as far as LMI and Fairfax before weather sending us home south.

We'll follow the strategy you've provided and see what happens.

A mate called over the other day and said that he had got into the lagoon on a cat...albeit many, many moons ago. He said how the anchorage was so much better than LMI, lying just in between the two islands and he would see the masts in the distance over at LMI doing the pendulum dance.

We'll let the forum know how we go.

Cheers
Trace
frant
frant
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8 Aug 2010 2:06pm
cisco said...

I am sure it is a doable thing with a shallow draught. I am also sure it would be a MAGIC experience if you could spend a week or two in the lagoon.

Before you do it though, just check the GBRMPA maps to see exactly what the zoning is and the rules that apply.

These quasi autonomous authorities do have the power to confiscate your vessel in particular circumstances.

I have heard some scary stories of court cases in which the offence was the matter of just one fish. Hearsay, yes, but be cautious.

Were I you which I am not, but if I were, I would not be ringing them up to find out what you may and may not do. Whatever the question, they are sure to say no. If they say no and you go ahead and do it, your bum is in the sling.

This particular area is quite sensitive for the university types who seem to control GBRMPA and QNPWA.

Marine Parks publish quite detailed map and info packs that are available for free at many marinas and chandlery shops. So the protocol is that no one has the excuse of being ignorant of the rules.

If you are anchored in an environmentally sensitive area and get bailed up by the enviro cops and are able to produce one of their map packs and say "Here it is Porky, and this is the way it reads to us.", they really do not have anywhere else to go.

A matter upon which the enviro cops might try to breach you on the rules is sewerage.

There is a very important point of law here that all cruising sailors need to note.

Your vessel is your place of abode or residence and as such no government employed person or any other person has absolute right of entry.

Your yacht is your home!!!!!!

If you get quizzed about your sewage sysytem, just say that you have a "non discharge system" which is what they want to hear.

As I said in the previous post, if you go in and hopefully out again, we would all like to know about it, complete with pics and GPS reference points.

I am confident you are going to do it. Cheers Cisco.


I think what Cisco is actually trying to say is to please observe the Nil Discharge Zones and please do not cruise anywhere in Australian waters unless you have a sewage holding tank and can discharge your sewage at a pump out station or 3 miles out to sea. Then these bogey men can quiz you however they like and you will be fine. But if you do discharge ** over the side in a NDZ then you deserve all the ** that comes your way.
badinfluence
badinfluence
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538 posts
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8 Aug 2010 7:05pm
Hhhhmmmm....yeah....I think I got the gist of Cisco's message. BTW, thanks again Cisco.....you're always a font of sound advice.

We have a holding tank which we use on a routine basis in Moreton Bay....plus a backup porta potti just in case s..t hits the fan. Too much information maybe LOL.

We are very conscious of being gentle to the places we go and not destroying what we came to enjoy.

Thanks for the reiteration and watch this space for news/pics when we get there.

Hooroo for now
Trace

frant
frant
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12 Aug 2010 9:57am
badinfluence said...

Hhhhmmmm....yeah....I think I got the gist of Cisco's message. BTW, thanks again Cisco.....you're always a font of sound advice.

We have a holding tank which we use on a routine basis in Moreton Bay....plus a backup porta potti just in case s..t hits the fan. Too much information maybe LOL.

We are very conscious of being gentle to the places we go and not destroying what we came to enjoy.

Thanks for the reiteration and watch this space for news/pics when we get there.

Hooroo for now
Trace




Tracey, I realise now that it is inappropriate of me to put words into Cisco's mouth. I apologise to him for that. They are actually my sentiments about correct sewage disposal protocols in Australian waters. And I certainly did not want to imply that badinfluence would have a bad influence on the environment.
Cheers
hangtime
hangtime
NSW
397 posts
NSW, 397 posts
13 Aug 2010 9:19am
cisco said...

I am sure it is a doable thing with a shallow draught. I am also sure it would be a MAGIC experience if you could spend a week or two in the lagoon.

Before you do it though, just check the GBRMPA maps to see exactly what the zoning is and the rules that apply.

These quasi autonomous authorities do have the power to confiscate your vessel in particular circumstances.

I have heard some scary stories of court cases in which the offence was the matter of just one fish. Hearsay, yes, but be cautious.

Were I you which I am not, but if I were, I would not be ringing them up to find out what you may and may not do. Whatever the question, they are sure to say no. If they say no and you go ahead and do it, your bum is in the sling.

This particular area is quite sensitive for the university types who seem to control GBRMPA and QNPWA.

Marine Parks publish quite detailed map and info packs that are available for free at many marinas and chandlery shops. So the protocol is that no one has the excuse of being ignorant of the rules.

If you are anchored in an environmentally sensitive area and get bailed up by the enviro cops and are able to produce one of their map packs and say "Here it is Porky, and this is the way it reads to us.", they really do not have anywhere else to go.

A matter upon which the enviro cops might try to breach you on the rules is sewerage.

There is a very important point of law here that all cruising sailors need to note.

Your vessel is your place of abode or residence and as such no government employed person or any other person has absolute right of entry.

Your yacht is your home!!!!!!

If you get quizzed about your sewage sysytem, just say that you have a "non discharge system" which is what they want to hear.

As I said in the previous post, if you go in and hopefully out again, we would all like to know about it, complete with pics and GPS reference points.

I am confident you are going to do it. Cheers Cisco.


Hey Cisco one of your best posts.
hangtime
hangtime
NSW
397 posts
NSW, 397 posts
13 Aug 2010 9:29am
Tracee we motored past one day with zero wind (very rare) saw a dead humpback surounded by tigers and kept moving as all info said no entrance to the lagoon. Youre going on a bit of a pioneering voyage by the sounds of it? Let us all know how you go and do brush up on the Nazi rules, I got hassled by customs in the same area 2 months ago in the same area on my way Nth then by fisheries at Great Keppel who were Anal but backed off when i showed them that i was fully informed and up to date with the rules and they had no way of bullying me, Most cruisers are a bit Vague on the rules and they know it.
Look forward to the story of the epic voyage
hangtime
hangtime
NSW
397 posts
NSW, 397 posts
13 Aug 2010 9:33am
Oh and if you take some High Res pics and write a bit of story you might like to submit it to Cruising helmsman or The Coastal Passage Magazines and you'll be famous!!
badinfluence
badinfluence
QLD
538 posts
QLD, 538 posts
13 Aug 2010 10:06am
I've looked at the zoning and also read what Patrick says in his Curtis Coast guide.

The entire lagoon is zoned green and the islands themselves are off-limits for scientific/preservation reasons.

My other concern is the lagoon was a bombing practice range until 1965 and two years ago, snorkellers found some loaded arms in the lagoon. Apparently the army went out and discharged them but WTF if we happened to drop anchor on one they haven't found yet..... yikes, shudder to think.

I am determined to at least follow Cisco's protocol and have a captain cook. And yes, Hangtime, will definitely take some quality pics and submit an article for CH or TCP. May be my long-awaited career destiny.......god knows I can't see myself finishing the degree I'm half way thru[}:)]

Catch ya
Trace

hangtime
hangtime
NSW
397 posts
NSW, 397 posts
4 Sep 2010 12:05pm
Nearly time to go Trace?
I bet youre pulling your hair out with last minute preparations?
badinfluence
badinfluence
QLD
538 posts
QLD, 538 posts
4 Sep 2010 11:50pm
Oh yeah baby!!!!!

The list just gets longer and longer...and then longer still

I can see why you just stay amongst it up the coast down the coast up the coast!!!!!!!! I already know before we even set off that I won't want to come back to suburbia/reality . I just want one or the other,,,,,,preferably a boat!!!

Anyhoo, up to the fuel tanks and ..even before I had gleaned your deal, just felt we should just go with lots of small............so finally convinced DH that was the way to go.

He's changed the steering from dodgy ( I mean really problem-plagued dodgy) hydraulics to cable.........at the very least I expect to return with body-building biceps LOL!!!!

It's not only the boat getting ready, but the house and making sure Dad's boat (yes, she's mine, but she'll always be Dad's ) is okay to leave for a few months. Thinking, only yesterday I sucked out 5 litres of oily water from beneath the donk...................ingressed from above methinks/hopes).

Anyhoo, when are you heading back?? Let's make sure we hook up and talk Crowther rubbish, hey??

Hooroo for now
Trace

Multihull1
Multihull1
QLD
130 posts
QLD, 130 posts
5 Sep 2010 9:19pm
it is doable, is that a word, anyway have been in twice over the years. cats with daggerboards and kickup rudders though
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