Food for extended passages

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GKandCC
GKandCC
NSW
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20 Aug 2016 3:56pm
I am wondering if anyone can say whether you can cook rice/lentils/pasta/other, using just seawater (all the time) on an extended passage, or if it is advisable to dilute it to some extent with your freshwater supplies? Any suggestions you've found workable for others who may be thinking of a few weeks/months away with limited fridge/freezer capacity?…yes, I know, how long's a piece of string with a dangling cabanossi when you're a vego,vegan,vague-one! Carnivores please respond.
Greg
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve
QLD
2195 posts
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20 Aug 2016 4:05pm
Ive done this and found it a bit too salty to use onky seawater. Maybe using 50/50 might be ok
japie
japie
NSW
7146 posts
NSW, 7146 posts
20 Aug 2016 5:32pm
Yup, definitely too salty. You would probably end up using more fresh water trying to pass all the salt! Try diluting it for a few days to work out what is acceptable.
Crusoe
Crusoe
QLD
1197 posts
QLD, 1197 posts
20 Aug 2016 9:04pm
Some things that come to mind that don't need a fridge

Unwashed Potatoes (never been in a cold room)
Onions
Garlic
Ginger
Rice
Pasta
Longline Milk or Soy Milk
Canes of Coconut Milk (Great for nocking up curries)
Longlife Thickened Cream (comes in small Cartons)
Mixed Fruit (Peaches & Pears) goes great with Long life Cream
"Stagg" canned food, Various types of Chilli Mixes (sold at Woolworths)
Bake Beans
Spagetti
Muesli
Oats
Process Cheese (wrapped in Foils) yes it still exists
VitaWheat, Salada and other types of
Olives
Sundries Tomatos
Fresh Farm eggs (never been in a cold room if you can get them
Apples
Lemons
Lollies

As far as using saltwater for cooking, try it before you leave shore. I'd recommend carrying an extra 20L of fresh water. As a matter of fact below is a complete list of my ship stores. Where it says dog food, this covers things like the above mentioned "Stagg'

Aqua Toilet Cleaner Chux Clothes Washing Detergent Dish Detergent Exit Mould Hand Soap Laundry Detergent Paper Towel Scouring Pads Shower Soap Toilet Paper Dental Floss Deoderant Hats Suncream Sunglasses Tissues Tooth Brush Tooth Paste Coke Port Water Bottles Wine Biscuits Mars Bars Muesli Bar Pistachio Nuts Jelly Snakes 2 Minute Noodles Baked beans Bread Crumbs Bread Mix Breakfast Cerial Can Tomatoes Canola Spray Caster Sugar Coffee Condense Milk Cordial Corn Flower Cream (Long Life) Curry Paste (Can) Curry Powder (Keens) Dog Food Garlic Ginger Green Curri Mustard Powder (Keens) Onions Oyster Sauce Pancake Mix Pasta Pepper Plain Flower Potatos Promite Red Beans Rice Salt Self Raising Flower Soy Milk Spagetti Sugar Sweet Chilli Sauce Sweet Patato Syrup Tea Tuna in Cans Vegemite Vegetable Oil Vegetable Oil (Spray) Vineger Wraps Biscuit Dip Butter Capsican Carrot Cheese Eggs Lettice Mushrooms Tomatoes Bacon Chicken Frozen Vegetables Lamb Chops Mince Puff Pastery Sausages Steak Antiseptic Cream Bandage Bandaids Glucose Aid Panadol Seasick Tablets Clothes Pegs Hearing Aid Batteries Hearing Aid Filters Outboard oil Plastic Seal Up Bags Storage Containers


AshleyM
AshleyM
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197 posts
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21 Aug 2016 12:20am
If you are partial to Indian food, most Indian Spice stores sell precooked curries in foil sealed pouches for around $2-3 each. They are beautiful and most of them are free of additives/preservatives. They keep indefinitely as well. I used them on my long distance kayaking trips and keep a week's worth in my yacht just in case.
samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
1659 posts
NSW, 1659 posts
21 Aug 2016 9:46am

If you find the right salt/fresh water mix and cook, say. pasta in it, can you retain the used
water and cook another pasta the next day. Or is the water now 'yuk'. ??.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
21 Aug 2016 11:42am
samsturdy said..

If you find the right salt/fresh water mix and cook, say. pasta in it, can you retain the used
water and cook another pasta the next day. Or is the water now 'yuk'. ??.


The water would be 'yuk', after you have cooked your pasta in it there will now be carbohydrates in the water that will allow bacterial infection to take place. Sure you can boil it every time to kill the bacteria, but where is the saving in that.
wongaga
wongaga
VIC
664 posts
VIC, 664 posts
21 Aug 2016 12:40pm
Add decent quality parmesan cheese - it's good for a couple of weeks unrefrigerated if stored down where it's cool. The Coles fruitcakes also keep for a surprisingly long time out of the fridge. Mixed nuts and dried fruit (Scroggins to the oldies, or trail-mix to the Hollywood-affected) makes great high-energy snacking material that you can fuel you for ages on when it's blowing like $%& out there.

Garlic flakes are great for easy tasty pasta's etc. Canned tuna or salmon, when added to pasts with good quality oilive oil, garlic flakes and a touch of chili flakes, makes a fabulous quick & easy high carb & protein meal that you can gobble cold for lunch on the go the next day.

I found the salt/fresh water ratio to be about 25 or 30% max.
Egg-sucking time.......observe the usual caveats around using salt water in harbour, near other anchored boats, or after someone's used the heads!

Cheers, Graeme
samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
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21 Aug 2016 3:07pm
samsturdy said..

If you find the right salt/fresh water mix and cook, say. pasta in it, can you retain the used
water and cook another pasta the next day. Or is the water now 'yuk'. ??.


I was thinking of water conservation of course for those of us that have limited
fresh water tankage and no water maker. But as you say, you can't use 'yuk' water.
Another thought re canned food. If you are in tropical climes (FNQ) for instance, do you
keep your canned food low down against the hull below waterline to keep them relatively
cool, or doesn't it really matter.??.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
21 Aug 2016 3:31pm
samsturdy said..

I was thinking of water conservation of course for those of us that have limited
fresh water tankage and no water maker. But as you say, you can't use 'yuk' water.
Another thought re canned food. If you are in tropical climes (FNQ) for instance, do you
keep your canned food low down against the hull below waterline to keep them relatively
cool, or doesn't it really matter.??.


Doesn't really matter where you keep them. Keep them dry to prevent rust on the cans, remove all paper labels and glue from the cans as the creepy crawlies love to eat that stuff and you don't really want to encourage them. Having removed the label from one can, remember to write on it with waterproof texta, what is in it.
If any can shows signs of swelling, dump it, the same applies to glass jars with the 'magic button' on the lid if it clicks when pushed.
Toph
Toph
WA
1889 posts
WA, 1889 posts
21 Aug 2016 1:48pm
samsturdy said..

do you keep your canned food low down against the hull below waterline to keep them relatively
cool, or doesn't it really matter.??.


Samsturdy, there shouldn't be enough room for all the bottles of red
Bruski068
Bruski068
VIC
457 posts
VIC, 457 posts
23 Aug 2016 10:49am
Don't forget the smoked meats they last and add protein to your diet, and you might like to grow some sprouts, depending on the amount of time your trip is likely to take, these will give you your vitamin C and don't take up much room and add something fresh on extended trips. (alphalfa, bean, lentil, red clover, etc.)
wongaga
wongaga
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664 posts
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23 Aug 2016 11:01am
This might not be relevant if you're crossing oceans, but I find it very helpful for my annual 3-4 week cruise. I take along 3 or 4 20-litre collapsible PVC water containers (Kathmandu and other camping shops sell them). As the keel tank runs down, I empty them into it and then fold them up into very little space. When you reach shore, they fit beautifully into milk crates and with a couple of these and a folding trolley, you can walk a considerable distance without too much work to add 40 litres at a time to your inventory if there's no tap at the dock, or you're at anchor. Being flexible, they can fit into odd spaces at the bottom of lockers, and also help with weight distribution.

Cheers, Graeme
GKandCC
GKandCC
NSW
218 posts
NSW, 218 posts
23 Aug 2016 1:07pm
Excellent idea Graeme
Cheers Greg
nswsailor
nswsailor
NSW
1458 posts
NSW, 1458 posts
23 Aug 2016 2:23pm
wongaga said..
This might not be relevant if you're crossing oceans, but I find it very helpful for my annual 3-4 week cruise. I take along 3 or 4 20-litre collapsible PVC water containers (Kathmandu and other camping shops sell them). As the keel tank runs down, I empty them into it and then fold them up into very little space. When you reach shore, they fit beautifully into milk crates and with a couple of these and a folding trolley, you can walk a considerable distance without too much work to add 40 litres at a time to your inventory if there's no tap at the dock, or you're at anchor. Being flexible, they can fit into odd spaces at the bottom of lockers, and also help with weight distribution.

Cheers, Graeme


How sturdy are they Graeme? They sound a lot better than the 20lt hard contain I use now getting water to Seaka.
wongaga
wongaga
VIC
664 posts
VIC, 664 posts
23 Aug 2016 3:50pm
They are pretty robust actually. We used to use them for camping and they'd last a quite a few trips. One that I still use has a slight leak that loses about 1/2 litre a day, but can be forgiven as it's over 10 years old!

Obviously you have to pad inside the locker against screws or protrusions etc. Worst case is a bit of a dribble into the bilge and you lose the odd litre, and use the leaky one first.

Keep your eye out for the specials - $20-ish.

Cheers, Graeme

Datawiz
Datawiz
VIC
605 posts
VIC, 605 posts
23 Aug 2016 7:03pm
wongaga said..
This might not be relevant if you're crossing oceans, but I find it very helpful for my annual 3-4 week cruise. I take along 3 or 4 20-litre collapsible PVC water containers (Kathmandu and other camping shops sell them). As the keel tank runs down, I empty them into it and then fold them up into very little space. When you reach shore, they fit beautifully into milk crates and with a couple of these and a folding trolley, you can walk a considerable distance without too much work to add 40 litres at a time to your inventory if there's no tap at the dock, or you're at anchor. Being flexible, they can fit into odd spaces at the bottom of lockers, and also help with weight distribution.

Cheers, Graeme


Great idea Graeme, thanks for that - I'll be doing this for sure
regards,
allan
Crusoe
Crusoe
QLD
1197 posts
QLD, 1197 posts
23 Aug 2016 8:57pm
Sprouts are good. Use to grow them when cruising. Brought one of these. Very simple to use





Dexport
Dexport
303 posts
303 posts
24 Aug 2016 8:50am
A cryovac machine aboard is a great way to make things last longer. Catch a big fish and make meal size portions, cryovac each portion and they will last 2-3 weeks in the fridge easy as opposed to 2-3 days. Also precooked meals last 2-3 weeks.
I use a 30-70ish salt/fresh mix for spuds, pasta, rice etc.

www.desolenator.com/

When this finally comes out it will make me pretty much water independant. 15l per days capacity. I funded the kickstarter over a year ago now, theres been some delays but still hoping to receive mine in the next few months.
samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
1659 posts
NSW, 1659 posts
24 Aug 2016 11:12am
Dexport said..
A cryovac machine aboard is a great way to make things last longer. Catch a big fish and make meal size portions, cryovac each portion and they will last 2-3 weeks in the fridge easy as opposed to 2-3 days. Also precooked meals last 2-3 weeks.
I use a 30-70ish salt/fresh mix for spuds, pasta, rice etc.

www.desolenator.com/

When this finally comes out it will make me pretty much water independant. 15l per days capacity. I funded the kickstarter over a year ago now, theres been some delays but still hoping to receive mine in the next few months.


So you put salt water in and get 15lts of fresh water out. It says it doesn't use filters
so where does the extruded salt go ???.
Looks like a great idea. As you say, it would make a single hander water independent. Marvellous.
McNaughtical
McNaughtical
NSW
908 posts
NSW, 908 posts
24 Aug 2016 11:48am
Pressure cookers are great. They reduce cooking time and are a must have for cooking legumes... lentils beans etc, which are a great protein and can be stored for a very long time dried.
Jode5
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