Force 10 Stove

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McNaughtical
McNaughtical
NSW
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26 Sep 2016 3:25pm
Does anyone have one of these. I can't get the oven to stay lit. I can hold the knob in for ages and as soon as I let it go, the flames go out.
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2575 posts
NSW, 2575 posts
26 Sep 2016 3:28pm
Is that gas? If so it's most likely a thermocouple problem. Any gas stove on a boat must have one (and have a gas sensor) for safety. Check them thermocouple sensor is in the flame. It it is, and still not working it most likely needs replacing.
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2575 posts
NSW, 2575 posts
26 Sep 2016 3:29pm
Same for ovens.
McNaughtical
McNaughtical
NSW
908 posts
NSW, 908 posts
26 Sep 2016 3:47pm
saltiest1 said..
Is that gas? If so it's most likely a thermocouple problem. Any gas stove on a boat must have one (and have a gas sensor) for safety. Check them thermocouple sensor is in the flame. It it is, and still not working it most likely needs replacing.


Yes, it's gas. I don't have a gas sensor and I'll have to google to find out what the thermocouple is... lol
McNaughtical
McNaughtical
NSW
908 posts
NSW, 908 posts
26 Sep 2016 3:54pm
Thanks for that... I now know what to look for. Found this re thermocouples.. .

www.cruiserlog.com/forums/f30/force-10-thermocouple-problems-3167.html

PhoenixStar
PhoenixStar
QLD
477 posts
QLD, 477 posts
26 Sep 2016 5:07pm
The sensor needs a good contact with it's surround so grab it with some pliers and give it a discrete wriggle. the other end of the sensor may terminate in a clip at the control knob and needs to make a good contact there too. Bit of a bitch to get to but worth doing.
McNaughtical
McNaughtical
NSW
908 posts
NSW, 908 posts
23 Oct 2016 10:08am
Only just saw your reply there Phoenix. Will give it a go.
Crusoe
Crusoe
QLD
1197 posts
QLD, 1197 posts
23 Oct 2016 11:15am
Had this happen on my Broadwater. The problem (for me) was in the gas knob I was pushing. The sensor in the flame actually causes a current to flow in the tube that come back to the valve. In the valve there is a electrical coil that create a magnetic field that holds in the plunger (to keep the gas flowing) This electrical field is very weak and can only hold the plunger in, if the plunger has been pushed all the way in, by the person pushing the gas knob.

In my case I was pushing the knob in on the stove but it wasn't quite moving the plunger far enough in so the magnetic field could hold it. The gas control knob was hitting the face plate on the stove and stopping. I put a piece of packing inside the hole (in the knob) where the knob fits on to the valve shaft (shaft is what sticks out of the stove when you take the knob off). This meant, when i pushed the knob in, it made the valve shaft (hence plunger) go in a bit further and the magnetic field was able to hold it.

Maybe this may help.
Crusoe
Crusoe
QLD
1197 posts
QLD, 1197 posts
23 Oct 2016 11:29am
Just a bit more info.

A thermocouple is one of those magical electrical devices. It is where 2 dissimilar metals are joined. If you heat this joint, it causes an electrical current to flow, be it very small. The skinny tube that runs between the burner and the control valve is actually an electrical cable. Commonly referred to as "Pyro". The outer skin of the tube is a conductor and there is another conductor inside. The inside conductor is surrounded by a special "mineral insulation'.

The most likely place to get a bad connection for this device is where it is clamped/held onto the gas valve, as it does not require an electrical path through the stove or supporting mounts. There are no moving parts in it that are likely to fail.

How did I come to be enlightened. Read this thread.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Stove-Learning-Curve/
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