Gentleman's Etchells

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SoloCMV
SoloCMV
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2 Apr 2024 8:29pm
I have sailed a couple of twilight and Wednesday RPESC races on a couple of these converted Etchells.
The basic Etchell are around for $3-4-5-6k in ok condition.
i am pondering a poor man's conversion. Teak decks and coamings etc seem heavy and unnecessary.
remove pedestal, add seats, get rid of the endless tweakers.
A super simple sail plan, simple furller possible self tracker and execution of controls set up for short hand and even solo ( I have no friends) / ( doesn't play well with others).
Any collective thoughts?
PLanter4
PLanter4
NSW
107 posts
NSW, 107 posts
3 Apr 2024 6:33am
Yes,just open up the cockpit/install seating,and get an autohelm = for the joy of sailing !
julesmoto
julesmoto
NSW
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3 Apr 2024 9:37am
Pretty sure I remember from the dim dark past people converting them so that a small cabin can be isolated so that presumably they can't sink if they take a wave offshore.

Probably the added weight ruins the sailing characteristics but I guess it depends upon how you intend to use the yacht.
Chris 249
Chris 249
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3585 posts
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3 Apr 2024 4:34pm
SoloCMV said..
I have sailed a couple of twilight and Wednesday RPESC races on a couple of these converted Etchells.
The basic Etchell are around for $3-4-5-6k in ok condition.
i am pondering a poor man's conversion. Teak decks and coamings etc seem heavy and unnecessary.
remove pedestal, add seats, get rid of the endless tweakers.
A super simple sail plan, simple furller possible self tracker and execution of controls set up for short hand and even solo ( I have no friends) / ( doesn't play well with others).
Any collective thoughts?


I've got an Etchells mast and main on the old boat, and I've raced them a bit. The standard heavily-filled dacron main isn't always the easiest thing to hoist, given the normal halyard exit position. You may want to modify the halyard setup (although I haven't used one in eons and the new ones may be better) and fit some sort of pre-feeder below the luff groove slot.
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3585 posts
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3 Apr 2024 4:36pm
julesmoto said..
Pretty sure I remember from the dim dark past people converting them so that a small cabin can be isolated so that presumably they can't sink if they take a wave offshore.

Probably the added weight ruins the sailing characteristics but I guess it depends upon how you intend to use the yacht.


Hilweh III had a self draining cockpit, runners and a tiny cabin top and went very well for a while, winning a JOG championship. She did slam upwind so was eventually fitted with a deeper and uglier bow.

There were also Solings fitted with a much prettier lid that gave them more room down below, although they were still not exactly huge. One of them (Longshot) won a JOG nationals and I sailed it a bit in its dotage.
PLanter4
PLanter4
NSW
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3 Apr 2024 5:42pm
Cowes Week 1966ish - Dragon with a Lid - Clytia
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r13
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Ramona
Ramona
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4 Apr 2024 8:34am
In 1969 I used to race a Bosuns Dinghy on the Swan River in a club that had mixed fleet racing. There were 4 or 5 Diamonds there with small open cuddy cabins. The breeze was nearly always fresh and I was jealous of the comforts the Diamonds had.
Jethrow
Jethrow
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4 Apr 2024 3:02pm
Although it's adding a lot of weight, I just love the stern extension and cockpit they did to this Etchells to make it a bit more traditional looking!


afloat.ie/sail/sailing-classes/etchells/item/35869-etchells-22-super-de-luxe-heads-for-crosshaven
julesmoto
julesmoto
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1579 posts
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4 Apr 2024 3:50pm
Jethrow said..
Although it's adding a lot of weight, I just love the stern extension and cockpit they did to this Etchells to make it a bit more traditional looking!


afloat.ie/sail/sailing-classes/etchells/item/35869-etchells-22-super-de-luxe-heads-for-crosshaven


Wow that results in a boat with the rudder a long way forward. Also a fairly large yacht to have no motor unless one was added.
Azure305
Azure305
NSW
402 posts
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5 Apr 2024 11:17am
Heres another one. I renovated this Gentlemans Etchells from bow to stern for the owner. It has a cuddy cabin without ports and also an outboard well in the cockpit - you can see the top of an aluminium frame used to lower the motor through the hull. Both were professionally fitted. The owner uses an electric outboard that regenerates power back to its battery when in neutral. The pedestal was removed, and lines run to cabintop or cockpit.
SoloCMV
SoloCMV
NSW
27 posts
NSW, 27 posts
7 Apr 2024 8:19pm
Azure,
That looks amazing. Don't think I would bother with this cabin 'et'
open the cockpit, add seats, add a thick gunnel to keep splash out but thick enough ( 2 inches) so when racing with weight up it was vaguely comfortable/ tolerable.
Both the ones I've been on were electric which seems a nice idea. ( possibly advancing tech will lower the entry price)
It feels like unchecked a good hill at a giveaway price, that can perform as a beer can and Wednesday afternoon bash around the pins in the bay.
SoloCMV
SoloCMV
NSW
27 posts
NSW, 27 posts
7 Apr 2024 8:23pm
Jethrow said..
Although it's adding a lot of weight, I just love the stern extension and cockpit they did to this Etchells to make it a bit more traditional looking!


afloat.ie/sail/sailing-classes/etchells/item/35869-etchells-22-super-de-luxe-heads-for-crosshaven


I've seen this, but the weight and the build cost, probably not useful around the cans. Very nice rendition of a Gentleman's yatch.
SoloCMV
SoloCMV
NSW
27 posts
NSW, 27 posts
27 Apr 2024 4:14pm
I've been offered a Swanson Dart at almost no money. I will go and have a look but this looks like almost what I'm after without any modifications.
open cockpit, a couple of seats, simple sail plan. But I cannot find much about them.
I've had a Swanson 36 and loved it, but did Ron draw these just as well?
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7756 posts
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27 Apr 2024 4:43pm
I could never understand why more people don't sail Swanson Darts! Most of us would just be better off if we sailed Darts. Ideal boats for Sydney Harbour, Jervis Bay and Lake Illawarra etc.
boatgen.com.au/Ron%20Swanson
Planter
Planter
NSW
184 posts
NSW, 184 posts
27 Apr 2024 7:07pm
Yes . Dart in Woodford Bay on Gumtree $3k -for the joy of sailing = ideal !
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