How hard are yachts to launch from tralier?

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stonedpirate
stonedpirate
WA
248 posts
WA, 248 posts
11 Jun 2011 5:37pm
Hi,

I just bought a red jacket with 200kg steel fixed keel.

Its a little intimidating looking at it and am wondering if i am capable of launching and retrieving it on my own.

Seems like it would be difficult to navigate the keel through the small gap on the trailer where it sits.

Anyone ave experience launching red witches/jackets/eagles or other small fixed keel yachts on their own?

How difficult is it?

THanks
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
11 Jun 2011 8:39pm

have only retrieved swing keel yachts onto trailers , but the main thing with any thing boat, is to do it slow!
Make sure you have plenty of water ,not much wind [for the first time] and go for it
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
12 Jun 2011 8:52am
stonedpirate said...

Hi,

I just bought a red jacket with 200kg steel fixed keel.

Its a little intimidating looking at it and am wondering if i am capable of launching and retrieving it on my own.

Seems like it would be difficult to navigate the keel through the small gap on the trailer where it sits.

Anyone ave experience launching red witches/jackets/eagles or other small fixed keel yachts on their own?

How difficult is it?

THanks


I spent 12 months in Perth in 1969 when Red Jackets were everywhere. I spent plenty of time watching them at boat ramps but they always had helping crews. I would suggest a guide mounted on the trailer for the keel about 18 inches above the keel support with an open Vee about 2 to 3 feet wide narrowing down to the width of the keel support. Google images will get you plenty of examples and try Youtube.

If you have a boat ramp with a wharf or floating pontoon alongside the ramp then launching and recovery can be done with a couple of ropes, one on the stern and one at the bows. Success will very much depend on having the trailer in the correct depth of water.
NicM
NicM
5 posts
5 posts
12 Jun 2011 10:37pm
Hi stonedpirate

I've launched and retrieved my RJ a few times with no problems. You will get wet as the trailer has to be completely submerged for the boat to float off. The basic procedure is:

To launch - back down the ramp as far as you can go. Hop out and unhitch the trailer and let it roll down the ramp. Have a rope tied to the bow of the boat (and one on the trailer). The boat will eventually float off when the trailer gets deep enough. I usually let the trailer sit while I pull the boat up to the beach and secure it. Haul the trailer out of the water and hitch it back onto the car.

To retrieve - float the boat onto the trailer. Mine has a couple of padded bars that guide the keel into the right place. Its easiest when the wind is blowing directly offshore as this will help you line up. Secure the boat to the trailer. The trailer and boat combined will be too heavy to drag out of the water to the car so I have a 10m towrope which I run from the trailer to the car and use the car to pull the whole thing up onto the flat, chock the trailer wheels and reverse the car back to hitch up.

Good luck
NicM
NicM
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5 posts
12 Jun 2011 10:43pm
All that said, most times someone will offer to hold a rope or provide some other assistance when I'm by myself. Just don't go to a public ramp on a sunny long weekend to try first time!
PUGGSY
PUGGSY
WA
3 posts
WA, 3 posts
13 Jun 2011 2:10pm
Puggsy here...I have just refurbished a 20ft. RED EAGLE with a fixed keel...previous yacht was also 20ft but a bilge keeler...both sit on the trailer on their keels and the trailer has to be fully submerged for them to float off...main trick here is to get the trailer to the top of the ramp and chock it. Then disconmnect the towing vehicle and drive if forward about 20-30 feet...or more if the ramp is a long slope to the deep water. Attach a long tow rope or chain between the vehicle and the trailer...drive forward slowly and un-chock the trailer...then reverse the vehicle steadily...the trailer should roll itself down the ramp under its own weight but always under control...tandem trailers should roll straight...On my trailer, single axle, I fitted another set of wheels at the stern that can be raised and lowered...it converts the single axle to a tandem...where you need it...on the ramp. It also prevents the trailer tilting backwards and possibly damaging the rudder. And always have a second control rope from the bow to you...If you are doing this solo, run the bow rope to the walkway alongside the ramp...then if the yacht floats off while you are still in the vehicle, you have control...and ask any passersby to help...cheers...puggsy
stonedpirate
stonedpirate
WA
248 posts
WA, 248 posts
13 Jun 2011 4:46pm
Thanks guys.

I;m glad i asked this question :P

Keel guides are sucj a good idea, dont know why i didnt think of it :P

The guy i bought it from make an 8 foot extender bar for the trailer so hopefully i wont have to roll the trailer down the ramp.

Cheers
stonedpirate
stonedpirate
WA
248 posts
WA, 248 posts
16 Jun 2011 4:48pm
Just got back from my first launch and it was really easy.

Had to roll it down the ramp with tow rope but went smoothly.

Thanks all
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
16 Jun 2011 10:42pm

thats good, so was the retreive cool also?
stonedpirate
stonedpirate
WA
248 posts
WA, 248 posts
17 Jun 2011 9:54am
Yes

I just completely sank the trailer out deep then pulled the boat along the jetty with a rope on the front and one on the back.

Is floated effortlesly onto the trailer.

Then i had to wade in waist deep to hook the winch onto the boat then just used the tow rope to get it off the ramp.

Very easy to handle solo.

Now i just need to invent a tripod contraption to get the mast up and down on my own and i'm cruising.
slainte
slainte
QLD
2246 posts
QLD, 2246 posts
17 Jun 2011 6:49pm
stonedpirate said...

Yes

I just completely sank the trailer out deep then pulled the boat along the jetty with a rope on the front and one on the back.

Is floated effortlesly onto the trailer.

Then i had to wade in waist deep to hook the winch onto the boat then just used the tow rope to get it off the ramp.

Very easy to handle solo.

Now i just need to invent a tripod contraption to get the mast up and down on my own and i'm cruising.


G,day stoned, check this out, might be what you need

www.mastmate.com.au/

Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
17 Jun 2011 7:52pm
stonedpirate said...

Yes

I just completely sank the trailer out deep then pulled the boat along the jetty with a rope on the front and one on the back.

Is floated effortlesly onto the trailer.

Then i had to wade in waist deep to hook the winch onto the boat then just used the tow rope to get it off the ramp.

Very easy to handle solo.

Now i just need to invent a tripod contraption to get the mast up and down on my own and i'm cruising.


Lowered the mast on my old yacht a few days ago. All that is required is two lengths of timber that can form an A frame about 2 feet above the spreader. For and aft stays and a single whip with a block to haul up the mast. This photo should explain all. Two people make it easy but with winches one person can manage.
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
20 Jun 2011 3:53pm
To move my mast I use 2 spinnaker poles as seen on the pic and attach the jib sheet to the trailer winch cable, pull a bit of tension and it is easy to disconnect the front stay and then let it down slowly, can do it all alone.
If you need so advice on Red Jacket or Witches come to Ocean Reef Sailing Club, we race every 2nd Saturday and a couple of the boys are sailing Red Witches we are a friendly bunch and would be very happy to help!
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