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samsturdy
samsturdy
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11 Feb 2016 3:15pm
Took the boat out yesterday and got a little fish up me inlet pipe.....not too painful, but, it
did cause a bit of grief. So I got to thinking of a hull strainer. I don't really like hull strainers.
I don't like the idea of drilling holes in the hull to screw on a fitting, especially if you have to
take it off every year to clean it and screw it back on again. I wouldn't mind if could screw a
fitting on ONCE and have the business part of it detachable for cleaning and anti fouling. But,
does such a thing exist??. I have an in-line filter but the fish didn't get that far. So fellers, any
suggestions.??
Donk107
Donk107
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11 Feb 2016 9:44pm
Hi Sam

I assume it just has a through hull fitting at the moment with no strainer at all

If that is the case you can probably buy a replacement fitting of the same diameter with a strainer as part of it that you can fit the next time you slip it

Regards Don
HG02
HG02
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12 Feb 2016 5:32am
From my favorite seacock and through hull company
www.trudesign.nz/marine/products/18-intake-strainers
samsturdy
samsturdy
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12 Feb 2016 9:13am

Thanks guys.....The reason I don't like them is because I've seen them totally full of
oysters etc and it's awful hard to clean them out without taking the screws out and
scraping all the crud off the inside.To my mind, constantly taking out hull screws eventually
loosens them up so water can get passed them into the fibreglass. I may be a bit
over the top here but, at least with an open skin fitting it's not going to get a build up
of marine creatures......and you can always dive under with a screwdriver and dig 'em out.
But you can't do that with a strainer.
Jolene
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MorningBird
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NSW
2711 posts
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12 Feb 2016 12:01pm
samsturdy said..
Took the boat out yesterday and got a little fish up me inlet pipe.....not too painful, but, it
did cause a bit of grief. So I got to thinking of a hull strainer. I don't really like hull strainers.
I don't like the idea of drilling holes in the hull to screw on a fitting, especially if you have to
take it off every year to clean it and screw it back on again. I wouldn't mind if could screw a
fitting on ONCE and have the business part of it detachable for cleaning and anti fouling. But,
does such a thing exist??. I have an in-line filter but the fish didn't get that far. So fellers, any
suggestions.??


Do you really need it? After 10.5 years of sailing around Pittwater and elsewhere I have never had anything caught in the inlet. MB has a water strainer as an inline filter and it works a treat. It hasn't happened yet but a fish or any debris that can fit in the inlet will go to the filter and get stuck there. The filter is long enough that it is unlikely to stop water flow.
A strainer over the inlet will just block up with growth and it will be the time you forgot to clean it that you really need to engine.
Ambler
Ambler
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12 Feb 2016 12:11pm
I think the biggest worry is plastic getting ingested. I met a guy who cooked a $13,000 genset due to a plastic shopping bag.
Its a good idea to fit some sort of hull strainer
HG02
HG02
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12 Feb 2016 2:28pm
Last year another Walker H 28 had a small fish stuck in the inlet hose before the sea strainer
Lucky for him he watches the temp gauge
samsturdy
samsturdy
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12 Feb 2016 3:23pm

Yes MB I agree with you, re growth in the strainer. I wasn't sure if the inline filter would suffice but,
your statement, I think, would be correct so I'll stick with that.
I was lucky I had Missus with me. When the alarm went off I didn't hear it (a bit deaf) and she
alerted me so I switched off the engine and chucked out the anchor (just off Scotland Island).
My anchor is not very big but, pulling it up hand over hand made me think I had a shark attached to it.
I was surprised at how heavy it seemed.
Lazzz
Lazzz
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12 Feb 2016 3:52pm
MorningBird said..

Do you really need it? After 10.5 years of sailing around Pittwater and elsewhere I have never had anything caught in the inlet. MB has a water strainer as an inline filter and it works a treat. It hasn't happened yet but a fish or any debris that can fit in the inlet will go to the filter and get stuck there. The filter is long enough that it is unlikely to stop water flow.
A strainer over the inlet will just block up with growth and it will be the time you forgot to clean it that you really need to engine.



I'm with Sam & MB on this one, I have no external strainer & rely on my filter.

I have 2 inlets with large filters inside. If the engine intake gets blocked, at an inconvenient time, I can flick a tap over to feed the motor with the other (heads, deck-wash etc) intake.

So far no blockages but if I had to I can ram a broom handle down through the open ball valve to clear anything in either intake.
MorningBird
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12 Feb 2016 4:52pm
samsturdy said..

Yes MB I agree with you, re growth in the strainer. I wasn't sure if the inline filter would suffice but,
your statement, I think, would be correct so I'll stick with that.
I was lucky I had Missus with me. When the alarm went off I didn't hear it (a bit deaf) and she
alerted me so I switched off the engine and chucked out the anchor (just off Scotland Island).
My anchor is not very big but, pulling it up hand over hand made me think I had a shark attached to it.
I was surprised at how heavy it seemed.


We should arrange to raft up. You can have a look at how mine is set up and I would like to have a look at your boat. I'll be up on Monday for an engine service and maybe change the seal in the gearbox. MB won't be mobile obviously while I do these jobs but if you are around you could come over and raft up.

Last Monday I took MB for a drive and noted a light patch of water in the deep channel and wondered what it was. It wasn't until I was on top I realised it was a huge mass of jellyfish. I watched the temp alarm for awhile after that. However, if one got caught against the hull it is just as likely it would have got sucked onto/into a strainer as actually getting in the inlet hole.
Jolene
Jolene
WA
1624 posts
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12 Feb 2016 7:38pm
At the end of day, there are lots of reasons for and against a hull strainer , same can be said for the choice of strainer types. I have spent hours procrastinating about the best choice of raw water intake and have bought one kind only to change my mind and go to another. Like most things, if your aware of problems that may occur by implementing something such as a hull strainer and are prepared to do the pre flight check,,, and the maintenance that goes with it, at some point it may save you some grief. With or without a strainer, both need checking and maintenance at some point.
samsturdy
samsturdy
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13 Feb 2016 9:31am

One advantage I have is, with a little bit of work, being able to get everywhere on my engine easily.
So as long as I can stop the boat safely I can take off the engine casing and strip the cooling water
system down from the skin fitting to the pump. I think I would prefer to do that rather than risk a
build up of crud in a hull strainer that is impossible to get to on the water.

MB would love to catch up and will make the effort providing weather is OK and appointments
don't get in the way.

HG02
HG02
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13 Feb 2016 10:10am
samsturdy said..

One advantage I have is, with a little bit of work, being able to get everywhere on my engine easily.
So as long as I can stop the boat safely I can take off the engine casing and strip the cooling water
system down from the skin fitting to the pump. I think I would prefer to do that rather than risk a
build up of crud in a hull strainer that is impossible to get to on the water.

MB would love to catch up and will make the effort providing weather is OK and appointments
don't get in the way.



I fitted my sea strainer in a position so that when I open the sea cock I can see exactly what inside the strainer and its positioned in a location that user friendly
to clean.
For me that's important as If I need to clear of unblock some thing in a hurry less than a 120 seconds I can and also push a rod down the sea cock hose quickly.

Ive been caught once with a motor on an out going tide getting closer to the bar and carried out to sea
samsturdy
samsturdy
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13 Feb 2016 10:50am

HG. Are you talking about an external hull strainer that you can see and clean from the inside of your boat.???>
Trek
Trek
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13 Feb 2016 11:56am
MorningBird said..

samsturdy said..

Yes MB I agree with you, re growth in the strainer. I wasn't sure if the inline filter would suffice but,
your statement, I think, would be correct so I'll stick with that.
I was lucky I had Missus with me. When the alarm went off I didn't hear it (a bit deaf) and she
alerted me so I switched off the engine and chucked out the anchor (just off Scotland Island).
My anchor is not very big but, pulling it up hand over hand made me think I had a shark attached to it.
I was surprised at how heavy it seemed.



We should arrange to raft up. You can have a look at how mine is set up and I would like to have a look at your boat. I'll be up on Monday for an engine service and maybe change the seal in the gearbox. MB won't be mobile obviously while I do these jobs but if you are around you could come over and raft up.

Last Monday I took MB for a drive and noted a light patch of water in the deep channel and wondered what it was. It wasn't until I was on top I realised it was a huge mass of jellyfish. I watched the temp alarm for awhile after that. However, if one got caught against the hull it is just as likely it would have got sucked onto/into a strainer as actually getting in the inlet hole.


What a great idea!! I did get my engine coolant water clogged with a plastic bag once and couldnt get it out at the time.

Fitting a diversion
Lazzarae said..

MorningBird said..

Do you really need it? After 10.5 years of sailing around Pittwater and elsewhere I have never had anything caught in the inlet. MB has a water strainer as an inline filter and it works a treat. It hasn't happened yet but a fish or any debris that can fit in the inlet will go to the filter and get stuck there. The filter is long enough that it is unlikely to stop water flow.
A strainer over the inlet will just block up with growth and it will be the time you forgot to clean it that you really need to engine.




I'm with Sam & MB on this one, I have no external strainer & rely on my filter.

I have 2 inlets with large filters inside. If the engine intake gets blocked, at an inconvenient time, I can flick a tap over to feed the motor with the other (heads, deck-wash etc) intake.

So far no blockages but if I had to I can ram a broom handle down through the open ball valve to clear anything in either intake.



Lazzarae what a great idea! I don't know if the others noticed that comment.

Having a switch so the engine coolant water can come from one of the other seacocks if necessary is a great plan. Next time Im on the boat Im going to do it. Just need a T piece in the head water inlet line and feed it via an inline tap into another t piece in the water engine coolant water inlet line.

Although Im with MB in that after years and years of sailing I only got engine inlet clogged badly once so hopefully its use would be rare.


samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
1659 posts
NSW, 1659 posts
13 Feb 2016 12:19pm

Yes you're right Trek.....hat tip to Lazzarae. Joining the head water inlet via tee pieces and tap
would solve an immediate problem. Not a bad idea at all.
Jolene
Jolene
WA
1624 posts
WA, 1624 posts
13 Feb 2016 9:46am
Trek said..
MorningBird said..

samsturdy said..

Yes MB I agree with you, re growth in the strainer. I wasn't sure if the inline filter would suffice but,
your statement, I think, would be correct so I'll stick with that.
I was lucky I had Missus with me. When the alarm went off I didn't hear it (a bit deaf) and she
alerted me so I switched off the engine and chucked out the anchor (just off Scotland Island).
My anchor is not very big but, pulling it up hand over hand made me think I had a shark attached to it.
I was surprised at how heavy it seemed.



We should arrange to raft up. You can have a look at how mine is set up and I would like to have a look at your boat. I'll be up on Monday for an engine service and maybe change the seal in the gearbox. MB won't be mobile obviously while I do these jobs but if you are around you could come over and raft up.

Last Monday I took MB for a drive and noted a light patch of water in the deep channel and wondered what it was. It wasn't until I was on top I realised it was a huge mass of jellyfish. I watched the temp alarm for awhile after that. However, if one got caught against the hull it is just as likely it would have got sucked onto/into a strainer as actually getting in the inlet hole.


What a great idea!! I did get my engine coolant water clogged with a plastic bag once and couldnt get it out at the time.

Fitting a diversion
Lazzarae said..

MorningBird said..

Do you really need it? After 10.5 years of sailing around Pittwater and elsewhere I have never had anything caught in the inlet. MB has a water strainer as an inline filter and it works a treat. It hasn't happened yet but a fish or any debris that can fit in the inlet will go to the filter and get stuck there. The filter is long enough that it is unlikely to stop water flow.
A strainer over the inlet will just block up with growth and it will be the time you forgot to clean it that you really need to engine.




I'm with Sam & MB on this one, I have no external strainer & rely on my filter.

I have 2 inlets with large filters inside. If the engine intake gets blocked, at an inconvenient time, I can flick a tap over to feed the motor with the other (heads, deck-wash etc) intake.

So far no blockages but if I had to I can ram a broom handle down through the open ball valve to clear anything in either intake.



Lazzarae what a great idea! I don't know if the others noticed that comment.

Having a switch so the engine coolant water can come from one of the other seacocks if necessary is a great plan. Next time Im on the boat Im going to do it. Just need a T piece in the head water inlet line and feed it via an inline tap into another t piece in the water engine coolant water inlet line.

Although Im with MB in that after years and years of sailing I only got engine inlet clogged badly once so hopefully its use would be rare.




I did notice Trek, Lazzarae has a good redundancy plan, I went another way though and put a Tpiece in the intake line after the seacock. One end goes to the internal filter/ pump, the other goes to a ball valve with a hose barb. I can close the seacock and open the other valve and draw water from where ever I like. I can use it to draw water with a hose over the side or from a bucket,even the head. It could also be used to pump the bilge in an emergency but best of all I use it for flushing fresh water through the engine.
In other words its just a bypass for the seacock.
HG02
HG02
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13 Feb 2016 12:59pm
Nice Idea you guys adding an extra inlet That's definitely on my list shortly
My engine inlet is 1 inch I.D. although I have not fitted it yet its more than enough for my engine and have thought of plumbing to my head then I would not need a head inlet. What worries me is one inch large enough if the motor was running and the head being used at the same time I think it would more than enough ?
I would add an extra ball valve next to the head as well as one on the T section
That would mean only two hull through's on the boat which I like

One of the reason I keep posting photos on seabreeze is some one might see some thing Ive missed or have a better idea.
Lazzz
Lazzz
NSW
913 posts
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13 Feb 2016 5:33pm
HG02 said..
My engine inlet is 1 inch I.D. although I have not fitted it yet its more than enough for my engine and have thought of plumbing to my head then I would not need a head inlet. What worries me is one inch large enough if the motor was running and the head being used at the same time I think it would more than enough ?


Jolene said..
I went another way though and put a Tpiece in the intake line after the seacock. One end goes to the internal filter/ pump, the other goes to a ball valve with a hose barb. I can close the seacock and open the other valve and draw water from where ever I like. I can use it to draw water with a hose over the side or from a bucket,even the head. It could also be used to pump the bilge in an emergency


Make sure you put a good check valve (not a plastic one) on the line to your head if you go this way or the motor will want to suck the water from your head & then air.

Yep, having a hose barb is handy as well - mine is on the engine intake after the filter.


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