Iridium Go + Predict Wind

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Crusoe
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8 May 2015 9:33pm
Anyone forked out the boat bucks for one of these. Interested to find out what others say about their performance and usefulness. I read an article from the (NZ) Island Cruising Association and it seems a few of the Blue Water Cruisers in this years rally have invested in them.
BunyipDreaming
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15 May 2015 9:13pm
Hi Crusoe,

Not sure what Iridium Go is, but! I use an Iridium sat phone on long distance cruises (up & down WA coast) and find it an excellent communication and safety feature. I also use PredictWind which I find invaluable - albeit at the base level. Mind you BoM have improved immensly especially with MetEye.

Regards
Tony
scruzin
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16 May 2015 1:49pm
I'm interested in learning what Predict Wind provides in terms of functionality over BoM's MetEye or Ugrib, which uses GRIB files.
Crusoe
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16 May 2015 9:49pm
The Iridium Go is just a WiFi box linked to the satellite. You can WiFi in with your phone, iPad or Laptop. Predictwind is one of the companies marketing it and they have an "Offshore App" that is configured to use the Iridium Go. This App can give you Weather Routing, Departure planning, Destination Weather + some other downloads as well as down load grib files. It does not yet have the ability to display grib files but the web page say it should have this by June 2015. It is not fast but about the same as sat phones. (So they say). You also get access to another couple of iPad Apps for sending Text messages and emails.

Well I forked out the money and brought one. It fired up straight away and did everything they said it would. Just slower then I imagined but I have never used satellite Comms before so it's all new to me. Unfortunatley I have a Mac Laptop and I haven't had much luck reading the Grib files I've downloaded so hopefully Predictwinds come good with theor Prediction of a grib reader in the Offshore App somethime in June.

I do not know if Predict wind is better than BOM or others. I would imagine if I wanted to I could probably find some way of using the Iridium Go to access other weather forecasting companies. But every time I expand the information network it cost money. Maybe I will just concentrate on using the Predict Wind "Off Shore" App for now.
HG02
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16 May 2015 10:04pm
Crusoe said..
The Iridium Go is just a WiFi box linked to the satellite. You can WiFi in with your phone, iPad or Laptop. Predictwind is one of the companies marketing it and they have an "Offshore App" that is configured to use the Iridium Go. This App can give you Weather Routing, Departure planning, Destination Weather + some other downloads as well as down load grib files. It does not yet have the ability to display grib files but the web page say it should have this by June 2015. It is not fast but about the same as sat phones. (So they say). You also get access to another couple of iPad Apps for sending Text messages and emails.

Well I forked out the money and brought one. It fired up straight away and did everything they said it would. Just slower then I imagined but I have never used satellite Comms before so it's all new to me. Unfortunatley I have a Mac Laptop and I haven't had much luck reading the Grib files I've downloaded so hopefully Predictwinds come good with theor Prediction of a grib reader in the Offshore App somethime in June.

I do not know if Predict wind is better than BOM or others. I would imagine if I wanted to I could probably find some way of using the Iridium Go to access other weather forecasting companies. But every time I expand the information network it cost money. Maybe I will just concentrate on using the Predict Wind "Off Shore" App for now.


Nice purchase Cursoe ,Ill be interested in your further postings
frant
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16 May 2015 11:25pm
Crusoe said..
The Iridium Go is just a WiFi box linked to the satellite. You can WiFi in with your phone, iPad or Laptop. Predictwind is one of the companies marketing it and they have an "Offshore App" that is configured to use the Iridium Go. This App can give you Weather Routing, Departure planning, Destination Weather + some other downloads as well as down load grib files. It does not yet have the ability to display grib files but the web page say it should have this by June 2015. It is not fast but about the same as sat phones. (So they say). You also get access to another couple of iPad Apps for sending Text messages and emails.

Well I forked out the money and brought one. It fired up straight away and did everything they said it would. Just slower then I imagined but I have never used satellite Comms before so it's all new to me. Unfortunatley I have a Mac Laptop and I haven't had much luck reading the Grib files I've downloaded so hopefully Predictwinds come good with theor Prediction of a grib reader in the Offshore App somethime in June.

I do not know if Predict wind is better than BOM or others. I would imagine if I wanted to I could probably find some way of using the Iridium Go to access other weather forecasting companies. But every time I expand the information network it cost money. Maybe I will just concentrate on using the Predict Wind "Off Shore" App for now.


I think you are actually talking about two discrete issues here. The first being satellite data connection. Tha second the services offered by predictwind in weather forecasting and it's application to sailing.
i have subscribed to the predictwind professional package for several years in answer to the second issue and believe that the service is second to none.
WRT satellite communications have an Inmarsat FleetBroadband receiver and subscribe to a pre pay data service as required. If sailing on the eastern seaboard simply use telstra 4G network. Not sure what your lock in data contract on the iridium network is but at US$ 125/month it's pretty high because you simply don't get the download speed on the satellite systems. Ie you will still need the 4G connection to do anything else but download small data packages.
Crusoe
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17 May 2015 12:15am
Have you downloaded the "offshore App" frant. It works both on WiFi (local G3/G4) and the Iridium Go (sat connection) and is different from the web based Predict Wind site I use when I have regular phone coverage.
frant
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17 May 2015 12:48am
Crusoe said..
Have you downloaded the "offshore App" frant. It works both on WiFi (local G3/G4) and the Iridium Go (sat connection) and is different from the web based Predict Wind site I use when I have regular phone coverage.


Do you understand the concept of an App? Of course an App which is designed for a particular platform is different to viewing a website on a browser. Ie the app for my android phone is different to the app for my ipad but the level of functionality is going to depend on your subscription.
How you connect to the internet, be it by wifi hotspot, cellular network or satellite network doesn't bother the device on which the app is loaded. It simply affects how much you pay for the data download.
Crusoe
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17 May 2015 12:56am
Have you ever been wrong frant. Answer the question. Have you downloaded the offshore app(lication)? If not then do it. You may then see what I am trying to convey. The offshore app is different from the android/iPad app. It can only be loaded onto a laptop. Mac or pc.
frant
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17 May 2015 10:37am
Crusoe said..
Have you ever been wrong frant. Answer the question. Have you downloaded the offshore app(lication)? If not then do it. You may then see what I am trying to convey. The offshore app is different from the android/iPad app. It can only be loaded onto a laptop. Mac or pc.


Crusoe, I am sorry that your comprehension of what I have written and what is written on the predictwind website appears to be limited.
I did answer the question, in that an app for a particular platform is precisely that.
The offshore app is a different app to the forecast app and is only available in a windows or Mac OS.
The functions available through the offshore app are, if you read the predictwind website, a function of your subscription level to predictwind.
The offshore app and forecast data available by web browser contact with predictwind are identical.
The offshore app simply allows for the data to be downloaded in a user friendly low data bandwidth fashion. Ie previously had to send an email in a precise format to define the geographic area, time period, grid resolution, what grib data was required and the forecast model required to predictwind for an automated email reply of the appropriate grib files.
The grib files thus received, either via satellite or 4G internet connectivity, can then be viewed and crunched using appropriate grib view software.
Expedition is my preference for weather routing software, it is possible to download Expedition Lite as a free grib viewer.
Many other navigation software programs include grib viewing options for weather routing.
Enjoy your day.
Crusoe
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17 May 2015 11:28am
Good morning frant. My thread is really about using Predictwind with the Iridium Go. I'm aware that the information that the Offshore App gives is the same as what can be gleaned from tablet Apps and the standard laptop Apps. And like you I have paid Predict Winds to use all they have to offer.

The Offshore App cannot display the GRIB files so you don't get to see the Wind Maps that I find quite helpful with the other Predict Wind applications. Preditwind are hoping to have a Grib reader developed in June this year and hopefully it has the functionality that some of the other Grib Reader applications do.

The reason why Preditwind have developed the "Offshore App" is because you can't use the other Apps they have when communicating via the Iridium Go. Its not just a case of taking longer because the connection is slow. It just won't work.

It would also appear that "Expedition" do not have an application for Mac Laptops. I have tried GRIBview (on my Mac) but there seems to be an issue with the correct location when the downloaded file is overlaid on the chart.

So, have you used the "Offshore App"? This is what the thread is all about. Trying to find others that have used the Offshore App to maybe get some advice. Not get someones opinion on what they might thing the case may be.

I'm also sorry that you are sorry that you believe I have a comprehension problem. I thought it was the other way around.
frant
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17 May 2015 11:51am
Crusoe, think you might be confused again.
The Iridium Go is in effect a satellite modem connecting to the www via the iridium satellite system and you pay to connect to the network.
You should be able to configure any appropriate device with a web browser or email software to connect to YOUR ISP via the satellite constellation and web surf to your hearts content.
It is going to be very slow so you won't be able to watch movies in spite of unlimited data.
Your Mac OS does not support Expedition, that's obviously going to rule out Expedition Lite.
You seem to have an issue with the mac version of your grib view software. I can't help you with that.
the offshore app does not yet have the grib viewer function. Ergo you are not going to be able to view grib files on the app, nor for that matter am I.
What is your question?
Crusoe
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17 May 2015 1:04pm
So from what you have written in your last post frant, I take it that you have used the Iridium Go to surf the net and am speaking from personal experience with this device?
McNaughtical
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17 May 2015 2:55pm
www.globalmarinenet.com/product/iridium-go/

Don't know if this helps....lol
McNaughtical
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17 May 2015 3:00pm
www.globalmarinenet.com/product/iridium-go/

Don't know if this helps....lol
Crusoe
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17 May 2015 3:18pm
Thanks for the link McNaughtical. I purchased my Iridium Go through the PredictWind Web site but the actual supplier is different from Global Marine Net. But I would imagine the manuals and help files they have for download will be worth reading and useful. Every bit helps.

It also has the same link as the 'PredictWinds Help' to "Text Based web sites" that the Iridium Satellite Network is more suited to using when surfing. They are very simple web sites and there are not many of them.

www.iridium.com/mobile/

Cheers
frant
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17 May 2015 3:34pm
McNaughtical said..
www.globalmarinenet.com/product/iridium-go/

Don't know if this helps....lol


McNaughtical you really are rather naughty. Crusoe appears to have a propensity to impulse buy stuff that he knows absolutely nothing about over the internet. He then makes a plaintive post on this forum asking if anyone knows about the technical and operating features of the stuff that he has bought. Unfortunately he goes on to get overly defensive and rather rude to those who can explain the operation of the equipment and that it is not actually what he is capable of utilizing. Your post just rubs his nose in the fact that he has just bought an extremely slow device to connect data over an extremely expensive satellite network.
you have just rubbed his nose into it.
lol indeed
Crusoe
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17 May 2015 3:58pm
Thanks for reminding me (again) why I go sailing frant. From your posts it would seem we are both in the same boat regarding our knowledge of the performance of the Iridium Go. At least I will admit I want to learn more. You on the other hand, portray yourself as the expert without, it appears, never using the "Offshore App" or an Iridium Go.

The Iridium Go does in fact do exactly what I thought it would. Works fine and the "Offshore App" performs as it should. My intention was to get weather information when I am out of (land lover) phone reception.

My post was about expanding my knowledge. Unfortunately there appears to be another on this forum who already know it all, can't be told anything and avoids answering questions that may indicate this.

Thanks again McNautical, as I know your intentions are good, not like someone else.
frant
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17 May 2015 5:45pm
Crusoe said..
Thanks for reminding me (again) why I go sailing frant. From your posts it would seem we are both in the same boat regarding our knowledge of the performance of the Iridium Go. At least I will admit I want to learn more. You on the other hand, portray yourself as the expert without, it appears, never using the "Offshore App" or an Iridium Go.

The Iridium Go does in fact do exactly what I thought it would. Works fine and the "Offshore App" performs as it should. My intention was to get weather information when I am out of (land lover) phone reception.

My post was about expanding my knowledge. Unfortunately there appears to be another on this forum who already know it all, can't be told anything and avoids answering questions that may indicate this.

Thanks again McNautical, as I know your intentions are good, not like someone else.


Ok, I'll admit. The iridium Go on closer study does not enable internet connectivity. My bad, it's even less usefull than my initial appraisal.
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