Jordan Series Drogues

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plev
plev
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9 Mar 2017 9:41pm
Some, (I for one) would very much like to hear from those who personally have deployed these drogues. How severe were the conditions, how much did the drogue improve comfort and reduce stress. Are they as effective as reported to be.

PS (I have one, hope never to be forced to use it.)

plev
Datawiz
Datawiz
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11 Mar 2017 8:26am
I've got a JSD too, but never used it - because it's still in the shed where I put it when it arrived 4 years ago.
One of these days I'll fit it to the boat
Anyway, with all the research I did before and since I bought it, I concluded it was the the one device/technique that could save me.
regards,
allan
Andrew68
Andrew68
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13 Mar 2017 7:12am
Lisa is just about to deploy hers any minute

lisablairsailstheworld.com/blog/2017/3/12/storm-ready

Andrew
Andrew68
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13 Mar 2017 7:12am
Lisa is just about to deploy hers any minute

lisablairsailstheworld.com/blog/2017/3/12/storm-ready

Andrew
Andrew68
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16 Mar 2017 3:09am
Lisa just gave a detailed account of her drogue deployment whilst rounding South America. Took 3hrs to pull it in and quite a few of the cones ended up being shredded. Very exciting to see her pass the half way mark.

lisablairsailstheworld.com/blog/2017/3/15/and-here-we-go-heading-home

A
Sectorsteve
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16 Mar 2017 4:52am
ill be getting one soon and trying it on a rough day a few miles out. Someone said somewhere that if you have a line from the end of the drogue back to the cockpit you can pull them in backwards, thus not going against the cones. makes sense.
Doesnt seem like Lisa did this. Instead she was fighting with it risking fatigue winching it in with all that drag. Shes certainly more experienced than me, but in theory pulling the drogue in backwards should be easier.
Im hearing of a lot of sailors who have these drogues but never had to use them and thats great, but what if you do have to use it unpractised?
it would be prudent in the relative safety of the australian coastline, in a 3+ metre sea 30+ knots to have a practice run. Bit of a nuisance but good for the confidence!
sirgallivant
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16 Mar 2017 7:48am
Steve if you are serious, l would volunteer coming out with you to take pictures or give a hand if you need one.

Sectorsteve
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16 Mar 2017 7:06am
sirgallivant said..
Steve if you are serious, l would volunteer coming out with you to take pictures or give a hand if you need one.



definitely. Ill let you know.
twodogs1969
twodogs1969
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16 Mar 2017 8:37am
Anyone know about the hard types of drouge? Kay Cottee used one of these.
www.lcwprops.com/item?id=6351
plev
plev
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16 Mar 2017 7:21pm
Steve, not sure that a line fixed to the end of a drogue would be such a good idea. Any rotation would tend to turn two ropes into one with I would imagine few effective cones. One sure way to find out. Look forward to hearing the results of your test run.
plev
Sectorsteve
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16 Mar 2017 7:47pm
plev said..
Steve, not sure that a line fixed to the end of a drogue would be such a good idea. Any rotation would tend to turn two ropes into one with I would imagine few effective cones. One sure way to find out. Look forward to hearing the results of your test run.
plev


Good points . Swivel. Floats? Not sure but I feel there is a retrieval method similar to this.
plev
plev
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17 Mar 2017 8:50pm
Under power, slow astern while hauling in if the swells permit. A bit of a challenge single handed. I intend to take mine for a trial drag in a few months. Can't do it now as my boat is still not ready for the water.
plev
plev
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Ramona
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21 Mar 2017 8:40am
Interesting thread here on Jordan Series Drogues for those considering making one. Templates and good advice on the cones too.

www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f116/jordan-series-drogue-cone-shape-181780.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cruisersforumnews+%28Cruisers+Forum+-+Emails%29
claverton
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30 Mar 2017 11:50pm
There's reports of cones deteriorating severely after one or two uses in gales with a lot of fraying of cones (to the extent that it's questionable if the drogue can still be used), especially the cones closest to the boats.

The cure is to sew a tape hem to the open end of the cones, or at least to the cones closest to the stern. The other alternative is to make or purchase the cones out of dacron rather than rip-stop nylon. Apparently cones cut with a hot knife rather than a machine are less prone to this fraying. Bottom line is if you buy a Jordan drogue without a tape hem on the front end of the cones you may not get more than a couple of uses out of it.
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve
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31 Mar 2017 3:39am
claverton said..
There's reports of cones deteriorating severely after one or two uses in gales with a lot of fraying of cones (to the extent that it's questionable if the drogue can still be used), especially the cones closest to the boats.

The cure is to sew a tape hem to the open end of the cones, or at least to the cones closest to the stern. The other alternative is to make or purchase the cones out of dacron rather than rip-stop nylon. Apparently cones cut with a hot knife rather than a machine are less prone to this fraying. Bottom line is if you buy a Jordan drogue without a tape hem on the front end of the cones you may not get more than a couple of uses out of it.


it certainly seems like it.
fishmonkey
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20 May 2017 5:35pm
there's a new article about using a JSD in the Southern Ocean here:

www.morganscloud.com/2017/05/19/battle-testing-a-jordan-designed-series-drogue/
claverton
claverton
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22 May 2017 11:22pm
fishmonkey said..
there's a new article about using a JSD in the Southern Ocean here:

www.morganscloud.com/2017/05/19/battle-testing-a-jordan-designed-series-drogue/


thanks for pointing out fishmonkey, hadn't seen this. I subscribe to morganscloud and can thoroughly recommend the subscription. I subscribe to sfa on-line as a rule but don't mind subscribing to this one at all ... not expensive and very well researched good info
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