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Keeping Fire Extinguishers effective

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Created by Bushdog > 9 months ago, 12 Apr 2019
Bushdog
SA, 302 posts
12 Apr 2019 5:08PM
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Way too much of the time (it detracts from sailing), I work in a remote health centre. Chubb turns up annually and checks the fire extinguishers. The bloke pays special attention to all the gas/powder extinguishers - like those usually used in yachts.
He inverts the extinguisher and whacks it with a plastic mallet till the settled/packed powder breaks up and moves, then gives in a few further whacks and shakes to ensure its well and truly loosened up. He reckons this process is even more important for extinguishers used in vehicles and boats, as the fire retardant capacity of the extinguisher is severely diminished if the powder doesn't mix with the gas.
Given the potential issues with fires on boats, I thought this info worth sharing!


Stockie
NSW, 343 posts
12 Apr 2019 8:24PM
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Good advice, I'll give all mine a check and whack with a rubber mallet.
cheers Richard

woko
NSW, 1514 posts
12 Apr 2019 9:49PM
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Yep just finished a fire drill and one of the points was that the powder extinguishers, aka the ones with the White band should be inverted regularly. And yes in theory their a good all rounder but on a reasonably decent class B ( flammable liquid) fire the effect was not impressive but we where out door, foam was the only type that took the fire out.

Jolene
WA, 1554 posts
13 Apr 2019 12:16PM
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Good topic post Bushdog... great advise

The guy that regularly service our fire extinguishers performs the same tap and shake routine.
I told him that on my boat I had 3 powder types and that after hearing the story of the guys that had a fire on board and could no longer go below to fight the fire after they discharged the contents of the powder type fire extinguisher in the cabin... that I wanted a fire extinguisher that wouldn't fill the air with particles,,,. He suggested a "JE-50 nano-particle fire extinguisher". He told me his company had tested them and had found them extremely effective, so I bought one from him.

westpeacehorizons.com/product-detail/je-50/

jbear
NSW, 115 posts
13 Apr 2019 2:42PM
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Mine are installed on their side , so the rocking of the boat keeps the powder from compressing .not sure about my theory ??

2bish
TAS, 805 posts
13 Apr 2019 6:38PM
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Thanks for the tip, will do this periodically now.

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
13 Apr 2019 8:09PM
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What's the bet that most people have their extinguishers next to where the fire is likely to be and if that is the case how do you ever hope to be able to get to it in order to use it. You may be able to get to another extinguisher in certain cases, but can you get to one quickly enough for it to be effective?

woko
NSW, 1514 posts
13 Apr 2019 9:01PM
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Good point loose change, and to add to it in my recent experience the little 1kg jobs that I'm confidant that we all have on board, will be disappointing as to out put of retardant.
maybe ok if your able to nip a blaze in the bud. And of course we all have a fire blanket obvious and accessible in an area like the galley

Bushdog
SA, 302 posts
13 Apr 2019 9:00PM
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jbear said..
Mine are installed on their side , so the rocking of the boat keeps the powder from compressing .not sure about my theory ??


I asked about that, as my car extinguisher is kept horizontal. Bloke thought is was better - larger surface area = less depth = ? Less compression, but still worth giving them the occasional tap!

Ramona
NSW, 7404 posts
14 Apr 2019 8:39AM
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LooseChange said..
What's the bet that most people have their extinguishers next to where the fire is likely to be and if that is the case how do you ever hope to be able to get to it in order to use it. You may be able to get to another extinguisher in certain cases, but can you get to one quickly enough for it to be effective?


Two extinguishers mounted on the forward bulkhead, Galley at the rear of the saloon. If there is a fire in the saloon these extinguishers will help you escape past the fire, pointless trying to fight it! If your in the cockpit and there is a galley fire then I will not be going anywhere near it.

Bushdog
SA, 302 posts
14 Apr 2019 12:20PM
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Jolene said..
Good topic post Bushdog... great advise

The guy that regularly service our fire extinguishers performs the same tap and shake routine.
I told him that on my boat I had 3 powder types and that after hearing the story of the guys that had a fire on board and could no longer go below to fight the fire after they discharged the contents of the powder type fire extinguisher in the cabin... that I wanted a fire extinguisher that wouldn't fill the air with particles,,,. He suggested a "JE-50 nano-particle fire extinguisher". He told me his company had tested them and had found them extremely effective, so I bought one from him.

westpeacehorizons.com/product-detail/je-50/


I've also heard good feedback about the generation of extinguishers. Was it expensive?

Bushdog
SA, 302 posts
14 Apr 2019 12:34PM
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Fires are most likely to be fuel or electrical. The need for safety with gas was discussed extensively on some recent posts comparing stove options.
Reducing available oxygen is a major component of effective fire management. I read somewhere that I it's good to have a small vent where you can aim an extinguisher into an engine compartment without having to remove access panels, and have done this with my current boat.
Given the recent suggestion that the Qld boat fire started behind the electrical panel, and discussion about hinged panels etc, I might to the same there.
If I boat burns when no one is around it's a loss. If a boat burns with people on board it's a potential tragedy. It's worrhwhile checking your fire alarm when you give the extinguishers a tap!

Jolene
WA, 1554 posts
14 Apr 2019 2:18PM
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Bushdog said..

Jolene said..
Good topic post Bushdog... great advise

The guy that regularly service our fire extinguishers performs the same tap and shake routine.
I told him that on my boat I had 3 powder types and that after hearing the story of the guys that had a fire on board and could no longer go below to fight the fire after they discharged the contents of the powder type fire extinguisher in the cabin... that I wanted a fire extinguisher that wouldn't fill the air with particles,,,. He suggested a "JE-50 nano-particle fire extinguisher". He told me his company had tested them and had found them extremely effective, so I bought one from him.

westpeacehorizons.com/product-detail/je-50/



I've also heard good feedback about the generation of extinguishers. Was it expensive?



It was about $60 to $80. I can't remember exactly as it was added to the bill for servicing the other extinguishers .



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