Lake Macquarie Channel

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Zigeuner
Zigeuner
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23 posts
3 Jan 2015 5:38am
Hi ALL
i'm leaving the lake for a trip up north, i rang coastguard who said the channel was dredged and is now 3m deep.. has anyone navigated the channel since xmas 2014. i draw 6 ft and was hoping not to have to go at high tide (midday) as the early morning is prefered departure time. Can i go at low tide given the dredging or is the coast guard info not quite right?
Lazzz
Lazzz
NSW
913 posts
NSW, 913 posts
3 Jan 2015 5:21pm
You should ideally plan your bridge opening for 2 to 4 hours after high tide. There is also the bar to consider for depth.

Try to choose the last hour or so of the run in tide to make your way out the channel, it’s pretty fast, but easier to control not running into the bridge than with a run out tide. There is virtually no slack water, the change there is pretty quick and about two and a half hours after the stated high or low tide due to the size and volume of the lake.

The bottom conditions do vary, but as a guide, the minimum depth on the line of the leads, is approx. 1.4 metres plus the tide height. Any sea/swell will of course reduce the depth in the troughs by approx. half the wave height.

I haven't been in the channel since they've dredged it - I hope they keep it at that depth.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
3 Jan 2015 6:48pm
I must admit that I am somewhat confused here, you rang the Coasties and decided that what they told you wasn't to be believed even though they probably had a more vested interest in knowing the facts about what was happening in their area of responsibility.

Perhaps more pertinent to your case you should have asked, "is it 3m at high or at low tide". I am assuming the Coastie didn't volunteer that info.

Depth of water should always be stated at the lowest level, knowing that is going to be the worst it gets.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
3 Jan 2015 11:14pm

The Swansea channel is not one to be messed with. A half a dozen guys at LMYC who have transited the channel at least 100 times each all told me the best time to do it is 3 hours after the Fort Denison high tide.

The bottom looked mighty close when I did my transit following the above advice.

It is up to you buddy.
BlueMoon
BlueMoon
866 posts
866 posts
4 Jan 2015 7:17am
Sounds like you should go through the bridge the afternoon before departure (at 3hrs after Ft Denison High), pick up a courtesy mooring on the ocean side of the bridge (or anchor), then go across the bar at the perfect time the following morning around 0400(or whatever it works out as 2 to 3 hrs after Ft Denison High). That's if my quick calculations in my head are correct....
Franrick
Franrick
289 posts
289 posts
4 Jan 2015 10:06am
Hi Anystyle,

I last went through Swansea Channel on the 19th December, inbound.

The dredge is still working on the channel and was near the end of the airstrip when I last passed.

My Roberts draws five feet and the only time my sounder showed less than three feet under my keel was when I moved from the centre of the marked channel to allow other boats room to pass.

The seaward side of the bridge is no problem at all at the moment. The 'Drop Off' seems to have plenty of water and for the first time in my experience was wide and deep enough.

The lake side has a few temporary channel markers around the dredge that I slowed right down for as it is a bit of a dog-leg but there was plenty of water.

I have used the channel dozens of times over the years (I used to live on the lake) and I think the channel is the best it has been for many years.

The coast Guard might say the channel is 3m deep but my sounder didn't indicate that however for my almost 2m draft it was not a problem.

Another thing. If the tide has been going out for a few hours and particularly in the third or fourth hour the water just on the seaward side of the bride becomes very turbulent. On the way out this will only give you a bit of a steerage problem but on the way in it could be a major problem as it is immediately before the bridge entrance.

Of course the Swansea Bar still needs the respect it has earned.

Cheers, rick.
Franrick
Franrick
289 posts
289 posts
4 Jan 2015 10:36am
Ooops, I didn't answer your question.

I don't think you will have any problem with the channel at low tide.

If you are planning an early morning departure at low tide I would exit the lake, go through the bridge and then motor to where the crossover leads are and check the bar.

An exit over the bar at low tide is really no problem as long as the conditions are right.

There is normally some broken water at the north of the bar. If it has been a quiet night and the north east wind waves from the previous day have settled then the only swell you should encounter is the constant south east swell.

Moon Island and Reids Mistake offer good protection from the south east swell until you get well clear of the bar so unless it is really blowing from the south or there has been an overnight southerly you should have no problems.

In the past I have left and entered the lake in most conditions. A strong north easter on a low tide was about the only time I would not leave or enter but then again I had the benefit of many years of local knowledge.

The pic is of my first boat, an Endeavour 26 sailing over the Swansea Bar in not so good conditions. This was about 1984.

Enjoy your sail.

Cheers, Rick.







McNaughtical
McNaughtical
NSW
908 posts
NSW, 908 posts
4 Jan 2015 6:34pm
anystyle said..
Hi ALL
i'm leaving the lake for a trip up north, i rang coastguard who said the channel was dredged and is now 3m deep.. has anyone navigated the channel since xmas 2014. i draw 6 ft and was hoping not to have to go at high tide (midday) as the early morning is prefered departure time. Can i go at low tide given the dredging or is the coast guard info not quite right?



How far north are you going anystyle?
Zigeuner
Zigeuner
23 posts
23 posts
4 Jan 2015 8:11pm
only as far as nelson bay.
Franrick
Franrick
289 posts
289 posts
2 Feb 2015 3:16pm
Just an update on Swansea Channel.
I came through on Saturday and the dredge is no longer in the channel. I could not see it in the lake anywhere near the channel so I am guessing the dredging work is done for the time being.
Happy sailing.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
2 Feb 2015 10:55pm

Dredging of the Swansea Channel is a service the NSW Maritime Authority should conduct on a regular basis for no other reason than a thank you to the general recreational boating public for the revenue it collects.

I believe Lake Macquarie should be listed as a National Maritime Heritage Location along with some other locations such as the Burnett River in Bundaberg.
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