You would have to do a deal with the owner , but may be get her pressure washed off , then you can see the surface better , then give her a coat of anti .

and if you purchase you pay for the painting and washing . and if there is a deal breaker problem , he pays for the paint and wash . ?????

just always thought it is a waste of resources to slip a boat ant not give her a coat of anti .............

I don't know that she's got ablative paint on her. Anti fouling would take longer than 2 hours wouldn't it? Costs a bit too? Maybe just a pressure clean? is it worth going over with a soft broom too or just the gurney?
Cheers Gents.

twodogs1969 said..
He will have to pressure clean to do the survey how else can he asertaine if there is any osmosis if it isn't pressure washed he is not doing his job.

cool.

drpete said..
Yeah a pressure blast will be needed as part of the lift out and survey.
Beyond that....it's not your boat yet so anything else you do has to be negotiated with the current owner.
Some won't mind, some get funny about people doing anything at all to it till it's a finalized deal.
I'd say just play it by ear and see what you're up against. Then when you pull her out, you know what needs doing.
Peter

+1
And bear in mind that even the good surveyors will miss stuff, so have a really good look yourself. And don't be put off by things like "Oh, it's raining and blowing really hard, perhaps we can skip the sea trial."

Yeah a pressure blast will be needed as part of the lift out and survey. Beyond that....it's not your boat yet so anything else you do has to be negotiated with the current owner. Some won't mind, some get funny about people doing anything at all to it till it's a finalized deal. I'd say just play it by ear and see what you're up against. Then when you pull her out, you know what needs doing. Peter

I have hit it off with the CO. His a solid guy and if all goes though will be sailing it with me back to Lonny. Anything feasible that would make things easier for me, I'm sure he would not hesitate to allow me to do (if the survey goes well). I wouldn't have the time to AF her. Not having experience with hulls, my only comparable experience with the high pressure cleaning is with the run of the mill car and bike cleaning which had me thinking after reading a few articles on hull maintenance. You know when you Karcher your car- it never gets off that dirty film properly without hitting it with the sponge - if she's out of the water, after the high pressure clean, it would be worth rubbing down with a soft cloth if its got ablative paint and maybe something coarser if normal AF? Id be busy with the surveyor but I could get the old man and a soft broom to work ;-)

+1 And bear in mind that even the good surveyors will miss stuff, so have a really good look yourself. And don't be put off by things like "Oh, it's raining and blowing really hard, perhaps we can skip the sea trial."

I've been studying up on surveying (ie this pretty awesome article www.pcmarinesurveys.com/Marine%20Survey%20101.htm ) and reading blogs on the same type of boats, obviously I'm no professional but I think they have been helpful in pointing me in the right direction on a few things. Fingers are crossed. Re the sea trial - I'd think a bit of crap weather would be the perfect time to do one??


Remember that antifoul has a minimum recommended time before you can go back in, it's not just a case of paint it on and your ready to go. Often it can be 8 hours.

As above.


Cheers gents. Your all gentlemen and scholars!

"I'd think a bit of crap weather would be the perfect time to do one?? "

This is the time to find out things like - do the reefing lines work, are the clutches working and in the right place, does the dodger interfere with the winch handles and all that stuff around working the boat, so calm weather and a firm grip on the enthusiasm generated by a first trip in your new love is the order of the day.

Your surveyor will have done all the heavy lifting, like finding dry rot in a bulkhead or ratty steering cables or pit corrosion in the prop shaft..

Toph said..
^^^ that's one I'll put a +1 to. Possibly the most sensible post so far.

PhoenixStar said..
"I'd think a bit of crap weather would be the perfect time to do one?? "

This is the time to find out things like - do the reefing lines work, are the clutches working and in the right place, does the dodger interfere with the winch handles and all that stuff around working the boat, so calm weather and a firm grip on the enthusiasm generated by a first trip in your new love is the order of the day.

Your surveyor will have done all the heavy lifting, like finding dry rot in a bulkhead or ratty steering cables or pit corrosion in the prop shaft..

I like your thinking

In all honesty, the boat belongs to the present owner so who is paying for the surveyor ??? ... you i guess as a "pre-purchase survey" and who pays for the lift

Anything that you do whilst boat is out of the water needs to be agreed with present owner, most would agree if presented properly.

But as people have been previously here had a go at me in regard to surveys and surveyors ..... no further comment

I would be doing the sea trial before an inspection. What if you spend all that money on the lift only to find an issue with a free/cheap sea trial?

Also you want to have a few aces up your sleeve. If you spend your money on a hull clean/anti-foul before you've finished the 'process', you've shown your hand and the present owner won't budge on price due to your enthusiasm.

Just my opinion of course.

I would be doing the sea trial before an inspection. What if you spend all that money on the lift only to find an issue with a free/cheap sea trial? Also you want to have a few aces up your sleeve. If you spend your money on a hull clean/anti-foul before you've finished the 'process', you've shown your hand and the present owner won't budge on price due to your enthusiasm. Just my opinion of course.

Yeh...Hearing you...but discussed that with the surveyor (who is reputable and recommended on this site). His take is that he does the haul out first to make sure that he knows what he is dealing with on the sea trial. fouling, prop pitch/size etc.

if you are telling the owner you may want to antifoul I would think you are showing your hand too soon your a bit keen mate play it cool and get a good price worry about the paint latter

Yeh. Antifoul is off the table this early.

Speaking from experience putting anti-foul on at this time of the year in tassie is hard work because it will be thick as

I would pressure clean it for the survey and if you end up buying it pull it out when the weather warms up (September or October) and do it then

Who did you end up getting to do the survey if you don't mind me asking

Regards Don

Hi Semus

I have never used him but i have heard good things about him

What boat are you looking at buying ?

Regards Don