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LooseChange
LooseChange
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15 Apr 2016 6:31pm
As this is a subject that keeps coming up and usually stirs up a lot of controversy as to what is the correct way to get to the top of your stick.
I give you this link as it seems to cover the things that people ask about and therefore need to know. I however also think that it will still cause some arguments ..... but here goes ..

http://www.yachtingmonthly.com/sailing-skills/whats-the-best-way-to-climb-your-mast-34699
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
15 Apr 2016 7:19pm

I like the ladder with the slugs !! that with a harness and friction gadget to arrest a fall would be my pick
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
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NSW, 3585 posts
15 Apr 2016 7:23pm
Deleted.....didn't feel like starting arguments
Agent nods
Agent nods
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622 posts
15 Apr 2016 6:52pm

For many years I was involved in cave exploration in Australia and overseas, We practiced what is termed SRT (single rope technique) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-rope_technique
This was used to climb situations of 100m+ plus (in total darkeness, and in the middle of waterfalls) in very remote locations. It is very reliable and reasonably comfortable.A good climbing harness is almost impossible to fall out of even upside down - and are designed to be use for many hours on end.

Basically an ascender is at chest level attached to the sit harness, and a second is held in the hand with a long loop of rope for the feet. Movement up the rope is by repeated moving of the foot loop ascender up the rope, pushing up with both feet together, and sitting, supported by the chest ascender. Just add a abseiling device such as a figure 8 (you might have one used for a boom brake) for getting back down. (you can use the asenders in reverse but its slower). There is basically there is no way you can get stuck up a mast with this system, even single handed.

Two golden rules:
1. always two attachments points especially when changing from ascender to desender,
2, Reserve a 11m kermantle static rope that is not used for anything else.....do not use an unknown mooring rope that my have had a 30 tonne or more dynamic load on it....and is just waiting to let go!

If you want lots of info try his source:
he taught me many years ago before expeditions overseas.
Also if you look though the personal equipment area...on harnesses you can make you own perfectly safe harnesses etc. from seat belt webbing and simple knots.

Vertical’ by Al Warild. Or it is also viewable for free at www.cavediggers.com/ He is Australia’s ‘best’ caver (if you judge best by he’s bottomed the worlds deepest cave and written a book and every year goes on at least 3-4 HIGHLY elaborate expeditions open to only the most ELITE of the world’s cavers. ‘Vertical’ is the BIBLE of SRT and it is not overly technical, easy to read, cheap, and he is an Aussie!!
andy59
andy59
QLD
1156 posts
QLD, 1156 posts
15 Apr 2016 9:07pm
nods said..

For many years I was involved in cave exploration in Australia and overseas, We practiced what is termed SRT (single rope technique) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-rope_technique
This was used to climb situations of 100m+ plus (in total darkeness, and in the middle of waterfalls) in very remote locations. It is very reliable and reasonably comfortable.A good climbing harness is almost impossible to fall out of even upside down - and are designed to be use for many hours on end.

Basically an ascender is at chest level attached to the sit harness, and a second is held in the hand with a long loop of rope for the feet. Movement up the rope is by repeated moving of the foot loop ascender up the rope, pushing up with both feet together, and sitting, supported by the chest ascender. Just add a abseiling device such as a figure 8 (you might have one used for a boom brake) for getting back down. (you can use the asenders in reverse but its slower). There is basically there is no way you can get stuck up a mast with this system, even single handed.

Two golden rules:
1. always two attachments points especially when changing from ascender to desender,
2, Reserve a 11m kermantle static rope that is not used for anything else.....do not use an unknown mooring rope that my have had a 30 tonne or more dynamic load on it....and is just waiting to let go!

If you want lots of info try his source:
he taught me many years ago before expeditions overseas.
Also if you look though the personal equipment area...on harnesses you can make you own perfectly safe harnesses etc. from seat belt webbing and simple knots.

Vertical’ by Al Warild. Or it is also viewable for free at www.cavediggers.com/ He is Australia’s ‘best’ caver (if you judge best by he’s bottomed the worlds deepest cave and written a book and every year goes on at least 3-4 HIGHLY elaborate expeditions open to only the most ELITE of the world’s cavers. ‘Vertical’ is the BIBLE of SRT and it is not overly technical, easy to read, cheap, and he is an Aussie!!


the other great thing with SRT id that you can attach your static rope to 2 halyards so you have an extra fail safe in case something lets go
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7756 posts
NSW, 7756 posts
16 Apr 2016 7:53am
I like the idea of the Mastaclimba combined with the single rope technique and climbing harness.
Foolish
Foolish
65 posts
65 posts
16 Apr 2016 8:38am
An improvement on the single line technique is to use an ascender and a gri-gri (ask at your local mountain climbing store for instructions). Just as fast going up and much much faster coming down. I've used this method many times at the dock and while sailing.
dialdan
dialdan
QLD
84 posts
QLD, 84 posts
16 Apr 2016 11:58am
Wow Andrew I just downloaded your single handed sailing book and now I find you here . You really get around.
Thanks heaps for the book
Al
Datawiz
Datawiz
VIC
605 posts
VIC, 605 posts
16 Apr 2016 4:12pm
Foolish said..
An improvement on the single line technique is to use an ascender and a gri-gri (ask at your local mountain climbing store for instructions). Just as fast going up and much much faster coming down. I've used this method many times at the dock and while sailing.


Me too - works very well.
I use a Brion Toss harness, ascender and gri-gri with a 10mm line I keep solely for climbing.
For a safety line, I use a short loop with a prussic knot on a halyard, the loop clipped to the harness.
This makes for a very safe system.
Since I'm usually alone, I take my phone with me in case I get stuck up there.
regards,
allan



Foolish
Foolish
65 posts
65 posts
17 Apr 2016 1:59am
Dialdan, I may never get to sail in Australia, but at least I can voyage there in my imagination and on these forums. I hope you like the book. For those of you wondering, he is speaking of the free version of my Singlehanded Tips book. You can download the newest version here:
www.sfbaysss.org/resource/doc/SinglehandedTipsThirdEdition2.pdf
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