Law in Qld

don't get why don't you do a search and get the law instead of opinions
www.msq.qld.gov.au/Safety/Navigation-lights

julesmoto said..
Maybe because it's a bit of an oddball law

No it is not an "oddball law"!!

It is, and has been for centuries, a common law of the seas that vessels during the hours of darkness display lights that indicate the presence of the vessel and whether the vessel is underway, anchored, moored or disabled or whatever.

It is a common sense thing which seems to be a rarity in practice lately.

You could try your insurance policy out to see if it will cover the loss of your vessel in the instance where another vessel collides with your unlit vessel causing a total loss of your vessel.

Would cable tying a few of these to your pullpit, pullpit or stanchions stress you financially??

www.bunnings.com.au/click-libre-solar-led-pathway-light_p0180287

How can you say it is an "oddball law" ??
It is not a "state" thing.
Read up the international COLREGS.

FabulousPhill said..

Ilenart said..

Does any other state have this requirement, or is it a Qld thing?

It's a Queensland thing. It's an oddball 'state thing'.
Does not apply in Victoria to moored boats. Handbook-2020-Chapter-2.pdf (transportsafety.vic.gov.au) page 88 - only for anchored boats.

julesmoto said..

have to visit your boat wants a fortnight

What spelling of "once" Goodness!

That's what you get when you rely on technology too much. Gave up typing with little tiny squares ages ago and simply speak everything into my phone now. Brings up another irritating issue with this site in that you can only edit or delete what you have posted for a short period and then it is set in stone. It has caught me out a few times especially when the site is slow and you push "post" and nothing happens for a while so you push it again and end up with duplicate posts which you notice later but then can't delete. Apologies for this although I'm sure it will happen again. In any event I thought one of the nice things about the sailing community, as was the sports bike community that I was part of for years, was that an interest in the sport trumps any level of education. I have noticed lots of bad English grammar and spelling on here but in my book if the poster has a genuine interest in sailing that's good enough.

cisco said..

julesmoto said..
Maybe because it's a bit of an oddball law

You could try your insurance policy out to see if it will cover the loss of your vessel in the instance where another vessel collides with your unlit vessel causing a total loss of your vessel.

In daylight if you get hit, they'll ask you for evidence of your black ball...???

cisco said..

julesmoto said..
Maybe because it's a bit of an oddball law

No it is not an "oddball law"!!

It is, and has been for centuries, a common law of the seas that vessels during the hours of darkness display lights that indicate the presence of the vessel and whether the vessel is underway, anchored, moored or disabled or whatever.

It is a common sense thing which seems to be a rarity in practice lately.

You could try your insurance policy out to see if it will cover the loss of your vessel in the instance where another vessel collides with your unlit vessel causing a total loss of your vessel.

Would cable tying a few of these to your pullpit, pullpit or stanchions stress you financially??

www.bunnings.com.au/click-libre-solar-led-pathway-light_p0180287

my local chandler says that the bunnings lights don,t pass the regulations so i found a light sensitive switch to turn the light on at dusk,the switch isn,t water proof and is mounted inside but is still able to pick up dusk and dawn

grich62 said..

cisco said..

julesmoto said..
Maybe because it's a bit of an oddball law

No it is not an "oddball law"!!

It is, and has been for centuries, a common law of the seas that vessels during the hours of darkness display lights that indicate the presence of the vessel and whether the vessel is underway, anchored, moored or disabled or whatever.

It is a common sense thing which seems to be a rarity in practice lately.

You could try your insurance policy out to see if it will cover the loss of your vessel in the instance where another vessel collides with your unlit vessel causing a total loss of your vessel.

Would cable tying a few of these to your pullpit, pullpit or stanchions stress you financially??

www.bunnings.com.au/click-libre-solar-led-pathway-light_p0180287

my local chandler says that the bunnings lights don,t pass the regulations so i found a light sensitive switch to turn the light on at dusk,the switch isn,t water proof and is mounted inside but is still able to pick up dusk and dawn

My solar controller turns my anchor light on and off,

ha, interesting discussion.
Just went looking for my old USA rules book but can't find it. I seem to remember in Cali it was something like Anchoring you need a light, for the purpose of the rule mooring is considered anchoring but not needed if in a designated mooring area.

looking at the VIC guide there is no mention of mooring nor a definition. Good on QLD for being explicit, any time there is inconsistent or unmentioned situations you are going to get differences of interpretation. I suppose it all comes down to local convention.

How about Steaming shapes, anyone use the cone?

Bananabender said..
Unfortunately its a case of horses for courses and for Queensland to change this rule it would be necessary to undertake the enormous task of clearing out the hundreds ,if not thousands of moorings situated in channels , creeks and passages between the hundreds of islands as per the google earth photo of part of the main channel between the GC and Moreton Bay.(all those white dots are moored boats at Stieglitz and Jacobs Well . I remember reading on SB a few years ago of a Cat. A heading back from S/H having to place two crew up forward with torches to navigate their way up this channel due to unlit moored boats.

These are old photos, nothing like that many boats there after the clean up!

Anchor light is not required on a mooring in NSW.

It's interesting that the Qld regs state an all-round white light and no mention of masthead. Having an all-round white light on the masthead on a mooring or anchoring is about the dumbest thing you can do if your worried about someone running into you! Just above the cabin or near eye level is the best. I have had a couple of close calls closing the coast and some yacht anchoring with a masthead light hidden amongst the background lights! If you use a Bunnings garden light ensure you have a glass one. Spend a bit extra.

Just a little of topic now. Watched a TV show about the Fastnet Rock lighthouse recently. The current light is a single 3w led bulb!