Mercury 9.9hp 2stroke recommendation

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Scrubby
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21 Jun 2017 9:35am
I'm looking at buying a mercury 9.9 2 stroke for my tender. has anyone had any experience with these outboards?
cavalier32
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21 Jun 2017 1:26pm
Hi Scrubby, do you need to have the dinghy registered for that size motor?
Scrubby
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21 Jun 2017 3:24pm
Dinghy is a tender to Fusion Magic so doesn't need to be seperately registered
slammin
slammin
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21 Jun 2017 4:54pm
I've got a very old one and it has been fantastic. First hard pull after 2 easy pulls and it purrs away.
Fuel consumption will be up there compared to 4st and noisier as well.
But reliable and simple has been great for us.
w8ingforwind
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23 Jun 2017 8:43pm
We had 2x 15hp merc on the work boats I use to drive vary reliable and we worked them vary hard for about a year 5 or so hours every day the only problem we had with them was when the boss put e10 fuel in them
slammin
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24 Jun 2017 7:14am
w8ingforwind said..
We had 2x 15hp merc on the work boats I use to drive vary reliable and we worked them vary hard for about a year 5 or so hours every day the only problem we had with them was when the boss put e10 fuel in them


FWIW they are the same engine just the piston is different.

Also I don't think E10 would help any outboard. From what I've read it's the worst thing you could do. Apparently the ethanol absorbs water. Obviously lots of problems with that.
Jode5
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24 Jun 2017 8:43am
Scrubby said..
Dinghy is a tender to Fusion Magic so doesn't need to be seperately registered


The only problem wth this is there is only a certain distance (I think it is 1km) from the mother ship.
Charriot
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24 Jun 2017 9:10am
There is always moisture in fuel system, small engines still using carbies, and any moisture is trouble .
The only way to get rid off moisture is add ethanol.
In Aus. we have E10, we lucky , sometimes use e10 is a must.
Sure, if you never use e10 and than all moisture is mixed and goes through system , perhaps trouble. It is not e10 problem but accumulated moisture .
Carburators cars, old days in Northern EU, add ethanol before winter is compulsory , otherwise when temperature drops
bellow -20 overnight , all moisture freezes and you wait till spring start your car again.
samsturdy
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24 Jun 2017 10:05am
Yes Charriot. Reminds me of the time I lived in the Mount Barker region in SA in the early 80's,
I had an Isuzu ute that on any Winters day would grind to a halt in the same place on the freeway
going to Adelaide....a fate, apparently shared by others. The area got a knickname because of
this 'other world' experience. All it was, of course, was the water in the fuel freezing and stopping
the fuel flow. Many 'spiritual' theories abounded.
blackswan
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24 Jun 2017 2:36pm
Its the same as a Tohatsu 9.8, the small Mercury's are made by Tohatsu, see which ones cheaper before pulling the trigger
w8ingforwind
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24 Jun 2017 7:48pm
The problem is not the moisture but the way the e10 melts the rubber in the fuel system and turns to yellow muck in the carburettor bowl.
Ramona
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25 Jun 2017 8:32am
w8ingforwind said..
The problem is not the moisture but the way the e10 melts the rubber in the fuel system and turns to yellow muck in the carburettor bowl.


All fuel lines sold these days suit E85 so they will handle E10 easily. I would try to avoid E10 in outboards because of the moisture absorption aspect, especially when fuel is left in tanks for awhile. The problem is when buying 91 fuel you do not know the exact amount of ethanol involved. Fuel companies only have to declare the fuel as E10 when the ethanol level reaches 10%. All that stuff sold as 91 could have 9% ethanol. Even diesel can have some ethanol in it. One of the local garages here sells diesel that smells really sweet!
twodogs1969
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25 Jun 2017 9:42am
Ramona said..

w8ingforwind said..
The problem is not the moisture but the way the e10 melts the rubber in the fuel system and turns to yellow muck in the carburettor bowl.



All fuel lines sold these days suit E85 so they will handle E10 easily. I would try to avoid E10 in outboards because of the moisture absorption aspect, especially when fuel is left in tanks for awhile. The problem is when buying 91 fuel you do not know the exact amount of ethanol involved. Fuel companies only have to declare the fuel as E10 when the ethanol level reaches 10%. All that stuff sold as 91 could have 9% ethanol. Even diesel can have some ethanol in it. One of the local garages here sells diesel that smells really sweet!


I drive petrol tankers.
All diesel has bio added at least it does in sydney. All terminals are adding it. But being under %5 they don't have to advertise it.
Normal fuel eg 91 octane has no ethanol.
E10 is maximum %10 ethanol.
Ethanol holds water this is the main reason it is not suitable for marine or aviation use.
I would never use it in anything.
Karsten
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25 Jun 2017 8:18pm
Just read through this thread, and there seems to be two points of view:

A: ethanol in E10 solves moisture problems
B: ethanol in E10 creates moisture problems

Maybe it's different problems - can anyone summarise?
w8ingforwind
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25 Jun 2017 8:46pm
Ramona said..

w8ingforwind said..
The problem is not the moisture but the way the e10 melts the rubber in the fuel system and turns to yellow muck in the carburettor bowl.



All fuel lines sold these days suit E85 so they will handle E10 easily. I would try to avoid E10 in outboards because of the moisture absorption aspect, especially when fuel is left in tanks for awhile. The problem is when buying 91 fuel you do not know the exact amount of ethanol involved. Fuel companies only have to declare the fuel as E10 when the ethanol level reaches 10%. All that stuff sold as 91 could have 9% ethanol. Even diesel can have some ethanol in it. One of the local garages here sells diesel that smells really sweet!


All fuel lines sold these days suit E85 so they will handle E10 easily.

fuel line might be but what about the other components imported in your small outboard made in China-India-Indonesia?

thankyou for the input on the ethanol twodogs
twodogs1969
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25 Jun 2017 9:00pm
Karsten said..
Just read through this thread, and there seems to be two points of view:

A: ethanol in E10 solves moisture problems
B: ethanol in E10 creates moisture problems

Maybe it's different problems - can anyone summarise?


E10 holds water it does not separate as well.
Karsten
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25 Jun 2017 11:28pm
twodogs1969 said..

Karsten said..
Just read through this thread, and there seems to be two points of view:

A: ethanol in E10 solves moisture problems
B: ethanol in E10 creates moisture problems

Maybe it's different problems - can anyone summarise?



E10 holds water it does not separate as well.


Thanks Twodogs, I understand you're saying the Ethanol will dissolve water.

But I'm still struggling to understand the consequences of that.

With sailboat diesel, it's generally bad to have separated water (condensation or other) in the tank, because it encourages bio-organisms to grow. So, you could say that if there's something in the diesel that will dissolve that water, it could be a good thing, since it prevents the growth.

Now, with petrol, it may just be the opposite - better to have the water separated than dissolved. But if that is so, why is it?
twodogs1969
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26 Jun 2017 8:13am
Karsten said..

twodogs1969 said..


Karsten said..
Just read through this thread, and there seems to be two points of view:

A: ethanol in E10 solves moisture problems
B: ethanol in E10 creates moisture problems

Maybe it's different problems - can anyone summarise?




E10 holds water it does not separate as well.



Thanks Twodogs, I understand you're saying the Ethanol will dissolve water.

But I'm still struggling to understand the consequences of that.

With sailboat diesel, it's generally bad to have separated water (condensation or other) in the tank, because it encourages bio-organisms to grow. So, you could say that if there's something in the diesel that will dissolve that water, it could be a good thing, since it prevents the growth.

Now, with petrol, it may just be the opposite - better to have the water separated than dissolved. But if that is so, why is it?


Not an engineer but the problem from my understanding is it won't burn or compress.
Ramona
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Scrubby
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26 Jun 2017 9:18pm
Tks all. Bought the 9.9 at $1600 which is good value. Rated for E10 but I don't use it for this motor.
Scrubby
LadyLuck
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8 Aug 2017 9:15pm
Scrubby said..
Tks all. Bought the 9.9 at $1600 which is good value. Rated for E10 but I don't use it for this motor.
Scrubby


Well bought, they are a good engine!
No-one has even touched on Two Stroke fuel ratios here.
i run all two strokes 75:1
Ramona
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9 Aug 2017 7:54am
Scrubby said..
Tks all. Bought the 9.9 at $1600 which is good value. Rated for E10 but I don't use it for this motor.
Scrubby


Smart move. Now that it has been announced that two stroke carby engined outboards will cease being sold in Australia shortly we will end up like Britain with everybody chasing up secondhand outboards.
I bought a secondhand Evenrude 15 a few months back for my next tender.
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