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Zzzzzz
Zzzzzz
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Zzzzzz Zzzzzz
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15 Sep 2018 9:03am
Subsonic
Subsonic
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Subsonic Subsonic
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15 Sep 2018 9:12am
Nice.

theres something quite majestic about sailing boats from that era. Things were getting sleeker but still setting a monsterous amount of sail.
samsturdy
samsturdy
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samsturdy samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
15 Sep 2018 2:12pm
However did they stay upright with all that power trying to blow them over ?.
Yara
Yara
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Yara Yara
NSW, 1322 posts
15 Sep 2018 2:30pm
samsturdy said..
However did they stay upright with all that power trying to blow them over ?.

A lot of ballast and a lot of crew.
2bish
2bish
TAS
825 posts
2bish 2bish
TAS, 825 posts
15 Sep 2018 5:18pm
Wow that looks impressive! So what sails are we looking at here, front to back? Is that large yellowish sail the mizzen with the main just in front of it?
Ramona
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Ramona Ramona
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15 Sep 2018 5:23pm
2bish said..
Wow that looks impressive! So what sails are we looking at here, front to back? Is that large yellowish sail the mizzen with the main just in front of it?


Schooner.
woko
woko
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woko woko
NSW, 1802 posts
15 Sep 2018 5:54pm
2bish said..
Wow that looks impressive! So what sails are we looking at here, front to back? Is that large yellowish sail the mizzen with the main just in front of it?


Back to front you would have mainsil,atop of that would be main topsil, then looks like main staysil, onto the fore mast we got foresil with a foresil topsil, then I think it's inner jib, outer jib and flying jib. That's my guess anyway
2bish
2bish
TAS
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2bish 2bish
TAS, 825 posts
15 Sep 2018 6:00pm
Ramona said..

2bish said..
Wow that looks impressive! So what sails are we looking at here, front to back? Is that large yellowish sail the mizzen with the main just in front of it?



Schooner.

Ah I see, just looked up a sail plan, the schooner main is enormous!
All@Sea
All@Sea
TAS
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All@Sea All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
15 Sep 2018 6:13pm
Judging by the number of crew, or lack there of (that I can see), I'd say it may have powered winches. Kinda detracts from the sail thing. Not knocking it, but if we're talking classics, these are more my style. I've never been such a fan of the clipper bow, nor (generally) schooners.
SandS
SandS
VIC
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SandS SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
15 Sep 2018 6:25pm
that would fun to sail !!!
Zzzzzz
Zzzzzz
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Zzzzzz Zzzzzz
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15 Sep 2018 4:52pm
All@Sea said..
Judging by the number of crew, or lack there of (that I can see), I'd say it may have powered winches. Kinda detracts from the sail thing. Not knocking it, but if we're talking classics, these are more my style. I've never been such a fan of the clipper bow, nor (generally) schooners.


Could they have made that Mizzen any smaller ?
All@Sea
All@Sea
TAS
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All@Sea All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
15 Sep 2018 7:09pm
Agnetta. I raced against her a decade ago. the only tie anyone was close was in the start line, after that she took off into the distance. I'd imagine the mizzen would be a rule cheater - no doubt it also helps with balance.
Bananabender
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QLD
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Bananabender Bananabender
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15 Sep 2018 7:24pm
All@Sea said..
Agnetta. I raced against her a decade ago. the only tie anyone was close was in the start line, after that she took off into the distance. I'd imagine the mizzen would be a rule cheater - no doubt it also helps with balance.


Just read she's now for private charter.
woko
woko
NSW
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woko woko
NSW, 1802 posts
15 Sep 2018 9:08pm
All@Sea said..
Now this is a magnificent schooner - and a real sailboat!
easily handled though...?


That's just plain old silly, look at the way the foresil has been scandalised to let the main staysil breath ! Not to mention the main boom and a bowsprit that's as long as the most of the boats we sail ! Those old timers must of had the biggest balls ! Imagine jibing that lot !
GKandCC
GKandCC
NSW
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GKandCC GKandCC
NSW, 218 posts
15 Sep 2018 11:56pm
All@Sea said..
Now this is a magnificent schooner - and a real sailboat!
easily handled though...?



Without my glasses on that looks like Marilyn Monroe doing the Dance of the seven veils/sails
2bish
2bish
TAS
825 posts
2bish 2bish
TAS, 825 posts
16 Sep 2018 10:15am
woko said..

All@Sea said..
Now this is a magnificent schooner - and a real sailboat!
easily handled though...?



That's just plain old silly, look at the way the foresil has been scandalised to let the main staysil breath ! Not to mention the main boom and a bowsprit that's as long as the most of the boats we sail ! Those old timers must of had the biggest balls ! Imagine jibing that lot !


Or worse, imagine a Chinese Gybe! That would probably rip the whole rig of the boat wouldn't it?
All@Sea
All@Sea
TAS
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All@Sea All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
16 Sep 2018 8:36pm
Susanne 1911 (edit, 1906)
. Pretty that's the pre-winch era. Think about that...
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
SandS SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
17 Sep 2018 6:51pm
All@Sea said..
Susanne 1911 (edit, 1906)
. Pretty that's the pre-winch era. Think about that...


every race boat should have this pic on board to show the crew when they start grizzling about too many tacks !!!
woko
woko
NSW
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woko woko
NSW, 1802 posts
17 Sep 2018 8:21pm
All@Sea said..
Susanne 1911 (edit, 1906)
. Pretty that's the pre-winch era. Think about that...

I'll Say it again those old timers must of had the biggest balls !
,
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
cisco cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
17 Sep 2018 11:17pm
What do you reckon, about an acre of sail to about an eighth of an acre of deck??

The Kiwis have been doing the same ratio for over 100 years on their "Mullet Boats", just on a smaller scale.




www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/76036232/rekindling-the-mullet-legacy


boty
boty
QLD
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boty boty
QLD, 685 posts
18 Sep 2018 8:59am
cisco said..
What do you reckon, about an acre of sail to about an eighth of an acre of deck??

The Kiwis have been doing the same ratio for over 100 years on their "Mullet Boats", just on a smaller scale.




www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/76036232/rekindling-the-mullet-legacy



absolute love the mullet boats so cool great designs
Zzzzzz
Zzzzzz
513 posts
Zzzzzz Zzzzzz
513 posts
18 Sep 2018 7:07am
boty said..

cisco said..
What do you reckon, about an acre of sail to about an eighth of an acre of deck??

The Kiwis have been doing the same ratio for over 100 years on their "Mullet Boats", just on a smaller scale.




www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/76036232/rekindling-the-mullet-legacy



absolute love the mullet boats so cool great designs


Isn't the Mullet boat the forefather of the Hartley 16??
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
cisco cisco
QLD, 12365 posts
18 Sep 2018 9:45am
boty said..

cisco said..
What do you reckon, about an acre of sail to about an eighth of an acre of deck??

The Kiwis have been doing the same ratio for over 100 years on their "Mullet Boats", just on a smaller scale.




www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/76036232/rekindling-the-mullet-legacy



absolute love the mullet boats so cool great designs


If you are ever in Auckland make sure you visit the Ponsonby Cruising Club just beside the harbour bridge. www.pcc.org.nz/

It is the home of the Mullet Boat racers. I think the rule is on these 18 to 24 footers is that the mast may be no higher than 40 foot. That is radical.
They are that heavy on the helm it usually take three burly guys to steer them as it looks like in that photo.
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