Hey Guys, Still searching options for getting back on the water. Would value anyones opinion on the following two yachts:

Pacific 27 $18500 (Vic) - on www.boatpoint.com.au
description
Great entry level wheel steering cruiser with plenty of headroom, ideal for a couple wanting to get away on the weekends.

Current owner has updated all the electrics including instruments, wiring, stereo and VHF, however the boat does need new rigging to fitted at a cost of around $1000.

Inspection by appointment only at Sandringham.

Walker Custom 35 (Tas) - on www.boatpoint.com.au
description
Nov 2011 Price Reduction, Make an Offer, very keen Vendor

Classic, seakindly steel cruising yacht with simple, functional layout and finish.

Ideal cruiser with accommodation for four.


I realise both are vastly different in size and maintenance costs. The Walker is the first steel yacht I have considered. The Pacific has good electronics for the price of the boat. Would need to install a head and would go with a jib furler. Engine also seems in fair condition.

Any thoughts muchly appreciated...

The Walker is in the Hobart area, I could take a peep at it for you.

A good steel boat can be great, a bad one is only scrap metal.

I think that looking at the photos of the two yachts the Pacific has been very well looked after.

Where do you intend to sail? Offshore or locally inshore?

Are you planning to get away for holidays longer than 3 or 4 days?

The Pacific is a tad small, we used to own a Compass 29 and that is very cramped for the extended holiday.

Dusty

Peter,
Add a few more details in your Bio and people will have a better chance of offering good advice.

Thanks for some great feedback.

Sailing area: Week end sailing Tamar River. Short cruises along east coast of Tassie. Extended holiday cruising to Furneaux Group/East coast of Tassie.

Accomodation: Minimum 4 berths. Have 6 and 12 year old. Minimum 27ft.

Budget: $20k or under ideal. Up to $25k could cope with. $25k-$30k would have to beg the missus. We are slowly renovating our house and obviously the less money I spend at purchase the more we would have for the house. I realise that some yachts which are in the $18k-$20k price range would need a few thousand to get them up to scratch initially in any case.

That sounded like a top deal with the Whiting 39 at $29k. I am on the north end of Tassie on the Tamar river. I search boatpoint and yachthub regularly and know of most in the above price in the VIC/TAS area.

If you see anything that fits the above mould, give as a hoy. This is an awesome forum and I have seen many of you give some fantastic advice.

redwitch said...


Pacific 27 $18500 (Vic) - on www.boatpoint.com.au
description
Great entry level wheel steering cruiser with plenty of headroom, ideal for a couple wanting to get away on the weekends.


Any thoughts muchly appreciated...

Expensive when I where looking they where about 15k to 20 with all electronics but the size is narrow and I did not like it as a sea boat and I only test sailed it on the bay.
The otherone I have no ideas about steel except get it checked by a pro. personal opinion but it was free so take it like that.

Thanks Dusty - sent off an enquiry about the Carter 33 regarding what type of engine and condition..

GetaLife said...

Redwitch,

There is a Carter 33 for sale on Boatpoint for $25,000 that's got to be a bargain.

That's a lot of boat for $25,000 and it is capable of sailing Bass Strait and Flinders easily.

Dusty

The Greek built boats have a better cockpit layout than the Australian aft cockpit versions which are more race oriented.

This was discussed some time back on www.boatdesign.net/forums/sailboats/ There was a discussion on whether the Australian or the Olympic had the same hulls and whether they were actually Carter 3/4 tonners.

I like them.

It is still listed on yachthub.com/

Give the broker a ring.

The fact that it is floating makes that a bargain, no matter what condition it is in.

The Greek ones have a different deck and cabin. Much more friendly for cruising.

The Australian cruising one was the centre cockpit version, called the Carter 33 Passage.

See my Avatar.

Dusty

Thanks Dusty. Emailed another enquiry regarding the carter regarding engine details. If it is available I will chasing this one seriously. I like the look on the outside of the manatous, however I think the main cabin would be cramped being forward of the centre line and being double ended would lose beam aft. The space where you would want the main cabin to be is in the maximum beam area, which would be in the cockpit on the manatou. Nevertheless, they would look nice with all sails up on the water.

The swanson 36 looks perfect for the retiree ready to potter on a new project and not looking to go sailing anytime soon. Only two pictures but doesnt lend itself towards the disaster of a ferro boat some guy on here bought from Ebay not long ago. Were they too scared to show a pic of the insides? ;)

sezza79 said...

any thoughts about the Swanson 36ft? it is an a 1tonne IOR boat.

The Swanson 36 were a pre IOR design. If your in Sydney this would be worth a look. Possibly a one off in timber and sheaved in glass or more likely a glass hull with timber deck and cabin.
You have to look at this as a boat with more than $7000 worth of lead in the keel, the hull, 20 hp Yanmar, rig and sails and deck gear just extras thrown in.
Week on the slips and new topsides spray job and it would look good.

The ad would benefit from more photos, expect the interior to be untidy. I hate it when people spell Ben Lexcen incorrectly if he really did build it.

thanks for the replys.How would it go to sail, was mentioned in travels that need a crew to sail it, as this era boats were hard work to put the sails up etc? What is the deal with timber glassed boats maintenance wise? How much for respray or could you do it yourself? Would like to cruise arond Australia....

Hi, i went and had alook at this boat, so if anyone wanted any info or photos, i could help out. I was told it was triple planked diagonal timber, not sure what sort, being glassed over the top. Nice boat however alot of work to be done. Would be a good project, but not sure if it is cruising arond the world.

Hi, apparently the engine is running , he has resprayed it, new engine mounts, starter motor but has to be put back in. The boat is kind of cool however their is work to be done.I think if you could do the work yourself and put in the effort it would be fun to cruise around in. There is a bit of Timber rot on the deck and at the back of boat on Hull. The rest seems sound but i am no expert. He has put the interior back in, there is toilet. im pretty sure it is a swanson 34,just over 10 m long.Needs to be antifouled painted, cut rot repaint decks.Mast is good, furler is stuck at the top, apparently works but cable has been broken.An outboard can be put on to move it around at the back of boat. Rigging seems in reasonable nick. All ropes need to be replaced. Think one sail ok another has big tear i was told.In short can be done, but everything needs to be done. Like Nav gear needs to go back in or replaced, Probaly wiring needs to be done, just very niggly.Could be done.But what $$ do you want to put into project for what outcome.Interior is not so bad. Post photos later have to go out now.