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MorningBird
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30 Jan 2012 11:56pm
Some footage of significant seas, looks to be off France?
Cut and paste the link into your browser.


cisco
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31 Jan 2012 12:24am
When I saw the thread title and that you had posted it, I chuckled and thought this will be worth a look.

About to go the link now.
cisco
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31 Jan 2012 12:36am
John, That video has reconfirmed my intention never to sail, go aboard any vessel or even board an aeroplane anywhere near the North Atlantic Ocean.
GetaLife
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31 Jan 2012 5:47am
F the bucket, just get me out of here!

Reminds me of the time I was on the destroyer the Vendetta and we were told to get out of Hong Kong harbour, there was a typhoon approaching.

We ran before it for two days.

Another time we hit a wave and stripped the gears on A turrent and smashed an amunition locker to bits.

Another typhoon in the South China sea, returning from Vietnam with troops aboard on the old aircraft carrier Sydney, everything on the flight deck was swept off.

Now when people ask me if it was rough out sailing, I usually reply, "No, a little choppy, but nothing to worry about. Good fun."

Dusty
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31 Jan 2012 9:28am
This is where your bucket went....

MorningBird
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31 Jan 2012 8:11pm
Dusty, I have similar memories. I was on MELBOURNE in 1977 and 80 crossing the Bight in 60-70 kts with green water covering the 3 Trackers lashed down abeam the Island. Weather decks and the flight deck were out of bounds but I decided to have a look from the flight deck hatch near the TA 100 sponson (starboard aft). Deep green water was rolling down the deck.
In 1975 we had to leave Suva because of a cyclone. We missed the wind and had glassy seas with 50 ft swells. On the crest it was nearly 100ft down to the bottom of the trough and in the trough you were looking up at the next crest.
Great fun then, but I wouldn't like to be on the S&S34 in the seas on the youtube video.
cisco
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1 Feb 2012 3:23am
MorningBird said...
Great fun then, but I wouldn't like to be on the S&S34 in the seas on the youtube video.


As a first term Mobi I was given the usual "sea indoctination" trip on Sydney which in 1966 was a week or two from Port Jackson to Jervis bay and back and I went for'ard to watch the greenies spouting up the hawse pipes and loved it.

Queenborough was travelling in company with us and behaving more like surface travelling submarine than a corvette (that is what she was isn't it?) and I thought at the time "That would be fun steering her right now."

I have never been at sea during a cyclone or typhoon but I vividly recall as second Tiff on Barbette having to brace my knee and hand against the deckhead to prevent myself from falling out of my top bunk and that was inside the reef!!

In 1979 I crewed on a trans Tasman from Fiji to Sydney during which we transited the gap between Lord Howe and Middleton Reef.

This was my self qualifying trip to find out if I really wanted to continue with this yachting life thing.

The Yacht was called "New Morning" and was a British built "Phillip 43" which had a very similar hull form to the S&S 34 (think names and numbers) and was being professionaly delivered by a a guy by the name of Phil Wade and his wife Sue plus whatever crew the picked up along the way which for that leg happened to be me.

It was a great learning experience for myself. Phil Wade was a Master I and annually was sailing master for the Brazilians in the Admiral's Cup after which he would deliver their yacht back home via Antigua Race week.

So during our transit of the gap between Lord Howe and Middleton Reef we were in a 50 knot gale with some fairly big seas and beating with storm jib only, Mr Airies doing the steering and the watch on deck trying to keep a decent lookout.

The undersea mountains in this area cause very steep seas at times and butash just happened to have the midnight watch that night. With foul weather gear on and harness clipped we cop three greenies in a row that fill the cockpit (maybe a ton of water each time) and you can just feel the yacht dragging it self out of it each time.

I hear the fourth one coming and it is breaking and I know it is the tester. Up and over she goes 180 degrees. As it is happening I grab the stoutest line (jib sheet as it happened) and think " If it is topsy turtle more than 30 seconds, I am letting go and taking my chances in the briney."

It is the black of night but everything went white and roared. The wine glass yacht she is said "Yep." and came back up again with stick unbroken but everything atop it gone (VHF ariel, tri light). I regain my senses and see the soft pack liferaft from under the athwartships aft cockpit seat has gone over the stern and is doing it's automatic inflation thing due to it being still attached by the painter line. I try to drag it back aboard.

It being a southerly and us heading west, we were on a port tack.

Phil, resting, not sleeping, in the port settee berth, and being 6'2'' tall with an athletes build weighing about 100 kg, dropped about 10 feet across the cabin landing on his 50 kg wife nearly killing her, then called out to me "Are you alright up there?"

I replied "Yeah, but you better give me a hand to pull the life raft back onboard!!" The whips were definitely cracking.

So the master of the vessel presented on deck in his pyjama pants, made a very quick assessment and said "See if you can get the life raft back and I will attend to the vessel." or words to that effect.

The yacht is getting knocked by the swell causing slack in the painter line which allows me to pull it in close nearly to the point of grabbing it's side lifelines at which point the wind makes the yacht sail forward again so I ease the painter out with tension knowing that if I just let it go there will be a snapperama.

This happens four times but on the last I am easing the line onto the taff rail and snapperama happens. Luckily I did not wrap the line around any fingers as it would have taken them off. When it snapped it just lifted the skin off my fingers and palm and sounded like a gunshot.

We dropped sail to ease the motion; the Master made an estimate of our position using chart dead reckoning and Radio Direction Finder bearing from Lord Howe Island to determine if we were clear of Middleton Reef to leeward with sea room to lay ahull.

This being confirmed to the best of our capabilities, we lashed the helm and lay ahull for a day and a half with the duty watch required to poke his/her head out of the hatch hourly to see if we were about to be run over by a cargo ship.

In response to your comment John:-

Great fun then, but I wouldn't like to be on the S&S34 in the seas on the youtube video.

I don't think anybody would LIKE to be on any vessel in those kind of seas but if you were aboard a well managed S&S 34 (as I am sure your's is), I do believe you would be fairly safe. That's gotta be one of the major reasons why Morning Bird is yours.


GetaLife
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1 Feb 2012 7:20am
Hey, great stories guys.

Just goes to show, replace blood in the veins with salt water and your hooked.

How dumb are we?

Dusty
MorningBird
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1 Feb 2012 6:48pm
Yes Dusty, it does get in the veins witness the number of ex pussers on this site.

Peter, I remember an Attack sailor who did some sailing when I was flying Trackers out of RAAF DARWIN in the late 70s/early 80s. BARBETTE rings a bell as one of the Darwin based boats.

A Tracker pilot, Gary Caldow, did the Darwin-Ambon one year but I didn't have the time off.
cisco
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2 Feb 2012 1:16am
MorningBird said...

Yes Dusty, it does get in the veins witness the number of ex pussers on this site.

Peter, I remember an Attack sailor who did some sailing when I was flying Trackers out of RAAF DARWIN in the late 70s/early 80s. BARBETTE rings a bell as one of the Darwin based boats.

A Tracker pilot, Gary Caldow, did the Darwin-Ambon one year but I didn't have the time off.


Barbette was a Cairns boat in 72 to 74 but may have become a Darwin boat after cyclone Tracy.

I did do a trip on her from Cairns to Darwin in 73 when we were detailed to sail to Gove post haste to assist one of the Darwin boats in escorting four illegally fishing Tiawanese boats to Darwin.

Now the "A" boats were fitted with those poxy Paxman diesels that were designed as locomotive engines but as fitted to the "A" boats, with only one engine running would push them along at a minimum 6 knots at idle speed and with both running at maximum continuous RPM they would bash the guts out of the senior ranks in the for'ard mess at 23 to 26 knots.

One thing that would make those Paxmans play up was extended running at low RPM. They would carbon up and the turbo blowers would sieze up and life for the engine room watchkeepers became a toxic hell.

It became known that the maximum speed the Taiwanese boats could travel at was 4 knots and the method of escorting them would be for the Taiwanese boats to proceed in line astern with the two patrol boats circleing the column continueously from front to back to front etc at the slowest speed possible and the trip from Gove to Darwin was estimated to take at least four days.

All I could see in my immediate future was total misery!!

There were two NT coppers aboard each of the Tiawanese boats already and they wanted to have a naval representative on each boat as well and volunteers were called for.

When the question was dropped and nobody said anything for two seconds, I said "Yeah. I'll go."

A briefing followed during which I was informed that each of the coppers carried a revolver pistol so I would not be carrying a Browning 9mm semi-auto pistol.

Further, I was not to consume any of the food or drink from the Tiawanese boat and that due to our hurried departure from Cairns with the ship not fully provisioned, the only food I could take with me was tinned baked beans and tinned pineapple, water and as a special concession, a carton of XXXX stubbies. I was chuffed about that as it was triple the normal at sea beer ration.

The second day out I see the chinese cook coming out of the freezer hold with a big tray of assorted sea food, so I bail him up. Yeah, I will have a plate of those prawns and some of that squid would be nice too.

Anything else you would like Sir? I'll see you at the galley at tucker time.

So while the boys are sweating it out on the poxy pusser's paroley boat, I am dining like a king on fresh sea food and as they go past several times a day, I hold up a stubby and give them a wave.

I was as popular as a pork chop in a synagogue when I eventually got back on board.

sctpc
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2 Feb 2012 9:01pm
cisco said...



We dropped sail to ease the motion; the Master made an estimate of our position using chart dead reckoning and Radio Direction Finder bearing from Lord Howe Island to determine if we were clear of Middleton Reef to leeward with sea room to lay ahull.




Just out of interest why would you not have heaved too?
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