Raw Water Pump Gasket

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Yara
Yara
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9 May 2020 10:41pm
Slowly going through maintenance on the Space Sailer. Want to check the raw water impeller on the VolvoPenta 2001 engine. I would like to replace the water pump gasket, and can make one easily, but I have no idea what thickness gasket material is required.
Whenever I have checked out boats, the raw water pump always seems to have a salt encrusted rim. Looks like this gasket, or lack thereof, is a common problem.
Any idea what thickness to buy?
cisco
cisco
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10 May 2020 8:10am
Chart paper should be about right.
Jolene
Jolene
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10 May 2020 6:45am
Have you had a look at it to confirm there is a gasket or is it an o ring ? If it does have a gasket the thickness may be important to the cover plate impeller clearance. To thick and you will lose pump efficiency. I usually measure the housing and impeller heights before making a gasket, that is if I have to make one.
Ramona
Ramona
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10 May 2020 8:45am
Very thin.
Datawiz
Datawiz
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10 May 2020 8:53am
Jolene said..
Have you had a look at it to confirm there is a gasket or is it an o ring ? If it does have a gasket the thickness may be important to the cover plate impeller clearance. To thick and you will lose pump efficiency. I usually measure the housing and impeller heights before making a gasket, that is if I have to make one.


Good to see someone has an analytical approach to a problem rather than jumping in head first.....
cisco
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10 May 2020 3:47pm
If one thickness of chart paper is not enough, add another.
Yara
Yara
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10 May 2020 5:58pm
cisco said..
If one thickness of chart paper is not enough, add another.



How do you find out it is too thin? If the plate is jammed against the rotor you might destroy it. However I cannot imagine a designer would make clearances that critical.
I think I will go with 0.4mm which seems to be the minimum on the market.
Craig66
Craig66
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10 May 2020 6:41pm
Yara said..


cisco said..
If one thickness of chart paper is not enough, add another.





How do you find out it is too thin? If the plate is jammed against the rotor you might destroy it. However I cannot imagine a designer would make clearances that critical.
I think I will go with 0.4mm which seems to be the minimum on the market.



Put the faces together dry, metal to metal, spin rotor by hand, you will know if binds.
wongaga
wongaga
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10 May 2020 7:55pm
For a little low-pressure gasket like that, it's almost certainly to be pretty thin, about .5 mm. But as said, use two thicknesses if you need to.

I got sick of the ridiculous Yanmar prices and measured the remains of the previous OEM gasket with the vernier then bought a minimum-quantity roll of paper from a bearing shop. For less than the cost of one OEM gasket I got enough paper to cover the next 1,000 engine services. Tapped them out with a little ball-pein hammer and now I have the next 5 years sorted.
Guitz
Guitz
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11 May 2020 3:14pm
Last gasket i made for a jabsco raw water pump i used a manila folder to cut out the gasket, coated it with oil and it's still ok 5 years on.
Yara
Yara
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22 May 2020 9:39am
So the genuine Volvo-Penta part 833994 is only $6, and easily available, no need to make one unless in emergency. And the thickness? 0.15mm. Pretty darn thin, so not easy to make, and gasket paper this thin also not that easy to buy, and will cost more than the genuine article.
Jolene
Jolene
WA
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22 May 2020 6:13pm
I have a great little laser cutter/ engraver that I mostly use for cutting small gaskets. I would probably do more with it but I need more practice with the CAD software. I sometimes use it for cutting fiberglass cloth for intricate parts as it seems to melt the cut edge and stop the piece coming apart
cisco
cisco
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22 May 2020 9:58pm
Chart paper, hole punch, scissors and grease.

Can this thread move on??
garymalmgren
garymalmgren
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22 May 2020 8:07pm
Can this thread move on??

To where?

Oh, to here,

gary
Yara
Yara
NSW
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26 May 2020 12:36pm
cisco said..
Chart paper, hole punch, scissors and grease.

Can this thread move on??


Just for you Cisco, I measured the thickness of one of my paper charts, and yes, it was 0.15mm, just like the genuine gasket. However I am not going to attack my charts with a scissors unless desperate! :-)
cisco
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27 May 2020 12:21am
Good one Yara.

In the Navy out of date charts are passed on to the engineering department for recycling as gasket material for precision fit machinery.

In our application one could probably make 50 raw water pump gaskets from a chart so a if the chart is still in use on the chart table I really do not think a three inch square taken out of one corner of your chart in a time of need for gasket material is going to compromise navigation capabilities of the vessel to any great extent.

What would we all be doing if we did not have such important matters as this to discuss??????????????
Charriot
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27 May 2020 6:38am
I have spare 50 charts, iam in qld. Manila folder plus touch of non hardening liquid gasket.
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